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Old Oct 18, 2016 | 10:49 PM
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Hey guys i want to know how much power i can get out of the vq35de witout a turbo kit.i dont ask for much if i can get 350hp id be happy as hell
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Old Oct 18, 2016 | 11:07 PM
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Then you'll be very disappointed.
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 04:05 AM
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for reference, i did everything possible with my HR (without tearing into the motor....intakes, art pipes, tdx2, tune) and i only hit 286 whp
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 04:06 AM
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also, typical noob move... you posted this in the section for advice on how to make the forum better....


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also, typical noob move... you posted this in the section for advice on how to make the forum better....


Probably make new members be a member for at least a month before they are allowed to start their own threads...

350 na horsepower should be easy with an unlimited budget and a fully built engine with ITB's and probably a muffler delete.

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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 12:49 PM
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OK, semi-serious answer here.

Given the architecture of the DE engine, I'd *guess* (no first hand experience building one) that 350whp (400 give/take at the flywheel) isn't out of the question.

But what it takes to get the motor to produce this kind of power - without FI - is a decided trade-off. It really comes down to old school hot rod tricks mated with contemporary engine management. Essentially, the same tech and tweaks that went into your basic 327/365 Vette motor from the '60's....

Higher compression -
which basically means a built short block with domed pistons, stroker crank, trick head work and rods, high capacity oiling.

Cam(s)/enhanced internal breathing - High duration, high lift cams with a valve train adequately built with strong valve springs, retainers.....

Wait, stop....


Do you see where this is going?

The laundry list goes on and on and on - you'll note this hasn't even gotten to drivetrain, exhaust, intake system, engine management, etc. - and then.... you've got a street motor that's about as reliable and comfortable to drive on the street as a steamroller.

So, like everyone says, the answer to "Can I do a normally aspirated 350whp street build?" - purely from a pragmatic perspective - is N-O. (Meaning: "Sure, anything's possible with planning, $$, and tolerance for the unpleasant..... but still N-O.")

The best way to a car that feels like a pumped NA motor from a response perspective and maintaining some level of street civility (relative) is a motor refresh and supercharging. NA type throttle response (in tune with your foot) throughout the low-midrange (or you can tune for top end) and without all of the issues above.

Or swap in the entire motor, trans, ECU, and all the sub-systems from a Nismo Z34's VQ37VHR. 350 ponies *right there*! Laff.....

Of course, a whole 'nother set of issues arise with a blower or snail build but it's much "easier" to get to reasonable levels of power given x-amount of $$ thrown away. (Note I didn't use the word "investment". )

Finally, any answer from me wouldn't be complete without mentioning how much more valuable a driver software upgrade is than ANY amount of hardware you throw at the car.
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Originally Posted by travlee
also, typical noob move... you posted this in the section for advice on how to make the forum better....


Oh yeaa because ive been on this site for years smh
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Oh yeaa because ive been on this site for years smh
i prob had and sold my Z before you could drive. i will blame Florida public schools for your lack or reading comprehension
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Old Oct 19, 2016 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by travlee
i prob had and sold my Z before you could drive. i will blame Florida public schools for your lack or reading comprehension
Lmaoo u drive a corvette ?what happen you guys dont have ur own site ?
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Originally Posted by travlee
i prob had and sold my Z before you could drive. i will blame Florida public schools for your lack or reading comprehension
Ill post were ever i want wat u guna do about it buddy
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O man o man this isnt going to end well
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Originally Posted by Znation32
Lmaoo u drive a corvette ?what happen you guys dont have ur own site ?
you know people make fun of what they are jealous of.... not to mention, i prob spent more on mods when i had my nissan than your parents paid for your car. run along little boy

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Ill post were ever i want wat u guna do about it buddy
you just added more to my public school comment with this post

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Old Oct 20, 2016 | 07:15 AM
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OK people.... school's out.

Chill.

Please. < ==== He said "please"? Where's the "....and thank you m'am."?
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