ok, so im mostlikly going to buy injectors, a fuel pump, and the j&s Safe guard...... then i should have my ecu flashed correct?

 

The reflash is added safety, and you will likely add more power and flatten out your curve a bit. Also, if they up the rev limiter you will end up running approx. ~2 more psi on top of what you are running because of the increased RPM's. It will feel like a different beast once you make these additions.

BTW-I've got a set of RC440 injectors and a fuel pump for sale. I already sold the J&S.

--wes

 

yea, im def interested in what u have for sale.... i def dont want to blow my motor so i wanna do everything posssible to avoid it...... is there n e other timing solutions besides j&s, like e-manage, and aren't they coming out with an ultimate, is it worth waitin?......

 

I am going with the emanage ultimate AND the J&S. The protection factor alone is worth the J&S. You can set up the J&S to only pull 2 degrees from 5250-6000 linear, that is the lowest setting. You can then use the emanage ultimate to map your timing. This will be "if" we can get the 2 to work together.

 

where do i buy j&s safeguard from.......

 

if your going to have the ecu reflashed at AAM with your car being present on thier dyno then no need to get the j&s IMO they'll set the timing maps perfect as well as your a/f.... if you want to spend the extra money go ahead, the money you would save from not buying the J&S($450 or $500) you could put towards AAM fuel return line

 

One thing to keep in mind is that the J&S is not only a timing solution. People keep saying, "Just get the reflash and you do not need the J&S." What you are missing if you just get a flash, is the ability to adjust your timing for future mods. You also do not get the protection from detonation. The J&S system is many times more sensitive than your stock knock sensing system. It can detect knock, pinging, detonation, whatever you want to call it, way before the car's system. It then retards only that cylinder(s) which is knocking. This feature alone makes it worth the $$$ IMHO. I agree that it is not the perfect solution to mapping your timing, but it works. I plan on having the flash with stock timing, adjust with J&S, then hopefully fine tune with the emanage ultimate. This setup gives me full control of my timing. The problem with the flash, is that if you keep modding, you will need to re-flash. Some people have sent their ecu out several times to get a flash right for their car. Remember that our cars are very ecu tempermental, what is good for one car may not be perfect for another.

To answer your question on where to buy the J&S, try here: www.jandssafeguard.com
Or you might find one in the classified section, but it is rare. was wesman had one for sale and it sold within a day or so. Good luck.

 

I agree with all your points and all but remember that his car will present at aam so no need to send back and forth the ecu to get a perfect map if they set the timing maps & a/f conservatively (and remember with the ecu they set 3 different timing maps if I recall) their should be no worries with detonation

The only con with the reflash like you said is having to reflash for future mods but after the first reflash its only $150 each time after, if he installs the 9lbs pulley with the fuel return line I don’t see what other future mods he can do besides cams and headers if he doesn’t currently have them

I agree with you that the j&s is a very good backup to have but a fuel return line is must on our motors with FI thats my opinion.... I would say if anything get the j&s after you have a fuel return line installed it not like that he wont have the timing issued address with the ecu

 

I totally agree about the return fuel system, in fact I just spent the last few hours working on my fuel system. It seems that we agree on everything.

I was just trynig to point out what else the Safegaurd does. There are a lot of people that do not know what it is.

 

ok, im gonna go to aam then, it just sux that its 4 hours away, has n e one dealt with them personally, how long would it take to get the raflash done and how much does it cost. also is there n e where to go while they are working on it, cause i really dont wanna go there and come back the next day..... i have off on monday it would be awesome if i could get it all done in one day....

 

are you just doing the refalsh? if you are I would say about 2 hours.... the price is going to be whatever they charge for reflash (i think $599) plus whatever amount of time on the dyno

 

Did you get your fuel system installed? Or are you going to get the injectors and pump later, then re-flash?

 

im prolly going to get the pump and injectors later, then get a re-flash, how much is it per hour on dyno

 

also if i get the flash do u think i will be ok if i hold out on the j&s safe guard....... also will i have to get it re-dyno'd if i wait for the j&s safeguard

 

I would install the Safeguard when you install the fuel items, then get the reflash for those items. I would then have it tuned on the dyno. Remember, when you get the reflash after the Safeguard to redo the timing maps to stock or just a little retarded of stock. The J&S can then be setup to pull the timing. I am not sure how much dyno time will cost, gonna have to give them a call.

 

sweet, thanx for the info......

 

which safeguard is it?? i want to get one since i put on a procharger ...thanks

 

The J&S Ultra Safeguard

 

ahh yes i love where i live.. MRC is 5 minutes away and SPI is 20 minute away. I havn't been to MRC but a friend of mine is a supra fiend and SPI does all the tuning for him. They are very good so far..

 

I personally had the J&S and I did not like it.you have to cut your ECU harness and can not leave your car in the on position without it running or it will burn up your coils..Wait for the Utec..