since there is more FI here than G35Driver I need your advice, I'm looking at the Kit and it seems it is pretty much complete and has a better EM, injector... and I'm not sure but does it also com with a Fuel Return? I'm really leaning toward Turbonetics but when comparing both it seems APS look good. I'm just trying to get the best bang for my $$$ since either way I'll be spending a lot every $$ can help. please advice.

 

APS is as complete as you will get out of box.

APS does include a return style fuel system. In addtion to the kit, you will need to supply the spark plugs of your choice, and you will want a wideband and boost gauge.

I would also HIGHLY recommend getting the APS ST exhaust. IMO, it is a necessity.

 

sorry to hijack...but is there any problems with clearance issues when the car is lowered on max setting on tein basic's?

 

+1 on this I am running the APS/ST, and it was complete except for plugs, gauges, and synthetic oil......

I got the APS exhaust as a separate install(had a chance to run it on the stock exhaust). Significant performance changes afterwards, much better flow/response/performance.

 

There are definite clearance problems if you are lowered; the down pipe will scrape like a mother over speedbumps.

 

+1

 

Mine scrapes like a ***** on everything.

 

the exhaust DP is not the lowest point on the car, so I don't understand the issue with scraping?

 

If you are lowered even the slightest bit, you will definitely be scraping. I did all the time with my Tein S-techs. I can't imagine what all you Tanabe and Eibach guys go through

 

Some people swear by the APS ST. However, I talked to a local shop that recently installed one, and they had nothing but terrible things to say about it. It really depends on who you're talking to and their experience with it...

I'm personally very happy with turbonetics.

 

Care to elaborate on what they didn't like about it?

I personally installed one last month and thought it was great. was complete out of box. Great attention to detail. Great fitment. Awesome quality. Drove beautifully. The whole package.

I have seen a TN kit in person. didn't drive it or see it run, but the quality is NOWHERE near APS quality. On top of that, it is nowhere near complete out of box. Not to start anything but that is fact as far as I am concerned

 

Something about missing gaskets that had to be specially cut, hardware that breaks if you remove piping, check valve problems, wiring harness, etc. Apparently the g35c only made about 330whp once they got it running.

They said the owner decided he's going to sell it and go with a TT/built motor now. Crazy. I saw the car on the lift when it was in the shop but I didn't hang around long.

 

Really? I'd like to know how you based this opinion by "seeing" one. You'd be the first I've heard from that thought this, that wasn't totally biased towards APS. Every shop that I know that's done work on turbonetics kits has stated the quality is top notch.

I was trying to be more political in the previous post, but the shop I was referring to did actually call the APS kit "junk". Please don't flame me, that is a quote.

Turbonetics is releasing the stage 1.5 kit very soon that is going to be every bit as "complete" as the APS ST. They even have a tuner kit that you can run your own preference of EMS, injectors, or fuel system with. Also, they are releasing a stage 2 kit that will include a larger turbo, downpipe, wastegate, etc ,etc that will be made for a built motor if you ever go that route.


I don't really feel like arguing ST vs ST, so just take that for what it's worth. Good luck with the decision.

 

You can call up Japtrix and run up there and check things out and ask them about the kits. You can compare the piping on both setups. APS is smooth and polished SS. TN is powdercoated with the welds showing. You need a lot of heat wrap in the engine bay and still I have read about people melting hoses. You can compare other things like the brackets uses to mount the IC, the relacation of the PS cooler. No need to say more:

This has been argued to death and the info is out there if you want to look for it. I am biased towards APS, becuase of their quality, fitment, attention to detail, completeness - addressing all aspects, and R&D.

What I can tell you about the shop and the "issues" they saw, well, I wouldn't let them work on my car.

I am not saying the TN kit doesn't work, but to compare it to APS is a no comparison. APS kit is on an entirely nother level. I am sure MIA will jump in to counter all this, which is fine. I put my money into the kit I felt is best and you did the same with your money. That said, I have personally installed two APS setups and might have a bit keener eye than most when looking at FI setups.

 

Tuarran - Are you talking about the Zfever that installed it on the G35 coupe? I know them fairly well and they had issues while installing that kit. They didn't even know that there was a supplemental kit for G35's so they had to fabricate a few parts. I discussed this with them when I was there. I was not impressed by them whatsoever. They tried to convince me to get the emanage while I was there. The mechanic that was helping me on my car did not have a clue what he was doing and I just asked if I could do it all. They didn't even know where the check valve was till I explained it to them...which I thought was very surprising considering they installed the one on the G35 coupe. Anyways I wouldn't trust that shop..although I really like the owner. He has some nice cars too...

They seem to think the PE kit had the best quality of all the kits.....They still had one sitting there trying to get rid of it. Even offered me a great price....didn't know what that meant considering I already had a kit on my car

 

PE

 

so there will be turbo problems because of the location if it hits the ground?

 

The turbo will not hit. The kit provides a very sturdy skid plate to protect the turbo. All in all, the turbo doesn't sit that low.

 

The turbo hitting is a non-issue....some of the exhaust piping is a bit lower and will eventually scrape depending on how much of a drop your car has....

 

The turbo definately will not hit, the piping flange is what gets the most abuse.