its FI, a cheap way of FI, but FI. The NO2 is compressed in the bottle, and is forced to your car, when you trigger it, but its a poor mans turbo and dont recommend it for a 350z

 

cheap fi = NO FI unless you want a new engine b/c chances are you're going to cheap everything else, and you will blow your engine..........

 

I am sorry but NO2 is not forced induction... there is nothing forced about it.. it sprays into the intake tube or manifold or mix with injectors depending on what u get.. but it doe'snt force more air into the combustion chambers..

it will yeield more air for what it is but not forced.

the chepeast way is what i am doing. TN kit.. i think with the install it'll be around 6200 - 6500 (a little more if you are going with the cat version like me). that is if you can still get the kit at a good price. i believe they raised the price again.

 

definitely agree with u on this.

if he was capable of fabricating the parts he wouldnt be asking us about it here. unless u are a great mechanic or have a huge hookup at a shop, dont bother trying to make your own kit. let someone else do the R & D.

 

you basically told how it's NOT forced induction. it's spraying a chemical into the intake air. It's not compressing the intake air and "forcing" it into the combustion chamber.

it's not a difficult concept..........nitrous is NOT forced induction

 

I think any air or fuel that is introduced to the engine without natural means created from the engine is forced.

Air intake=not forced;it already exists as part of your engine your just freeing up the flow.

NO2= Forced; your forcing a liquid into the engine via jets or whatever to make power or lower intake temps, however it works.

Thats just my opinion tho, everyone can think differently.

 

I agree with you barthelb...kinda. I agree that it is forced into the engine, but i don't think it fits the definition of what the other "forced induction" systems do. Its just how you want to interpret the term. Whether it means anything is forced or air is forced.

 

Yeah, and the Turbonator creates a SWIRLING VORTEX of air that accelerates the flow of air to your engine. Forced Induction!

 

I agree with you as well. The term "Forced Induction" used by everyone on the web does not usually include NO2. But i think the definition of the term would include it.

 

 

.. with NOS your not forcing anything in.. your still lettiing the engine breath in naturally but just with chemicals that provides more combustion bang.. but i guess in the end.. yes it is how you define the word forceed

 

ok expert, that is why turbonetics people are having boosting issues with aftermarket exhausts. but you are right, of course i am a fool without a clue if you would kind sir list the motors blown from a vortech. i would love to see that list.
that being said, i never said superchargers are tuning free. i said if you wanted a RELIABLE turbo, you will need to get some tuning time in. anyone who knows anything about turbos knows that even bulletproof kits like the APS TT need tuning to be safe and powerful. do yourself a favor mike and dont be an *** unless you REALLY know what you are talking about, in this case it seems you are just relaying what you read on turbonetics website. A+ bud, A+.
i agree that there is no real cheap safe way to go FI. however there ARE cheaper alternatives like used vortech systems, and this boards beloved turbonetics single, but out here in cali a single is not an option if you want to avoid being hassled by the popo.

 

Spraying NOS is like running in the special olympics, even if you win your still a loser.



but on serious note... wanna spray, need wet kit 700, + window switch, fuel pump 100, pressure gauge - 100, install 300- 500, should have a SAFCII or Emanage Blue or at least a Reflash 3-500 to help tune it a lil, unless you go venom kit then expect it to be 1200- 1500 plus install is more around 5 - 600, plus fill is 4 - 5 a lb so about 50 a bottle,

for a safe NO2 setup with every possible option to maintain that youd use it much more you are still spending 2000 total and then 50 a bottle say you fill it ever other weekend for a year thats 1300
so you are looking about 3300 for continual use over a year... correct me if im wrong but youd also want a plenum spacer too so another 250
install
intake
exhaust
looking at well over 4Gs and you dont have a turbo whats really that budget.
CARS ARE EXPENSIVE DEAL WITH IT...
want budget buy a honda.

 

i looked up the prices on venom which ive been told is most reliable.
Venom Computerized Kit, 1105 plus shipping
still need a purge (clear out and liquid)
bottle heater (optimum pressure)
remote opening (Opt)
NO2 pressure gauges
FUEL pressure gauges
install
tuning
shipping
time & money you lose everytime you have to get it refilled
filling for 1 year of continual use = 1300 once ever two weeks
thats 10 -15 13 second pulls

 

a vortech kit still needs tuned as well. there is very little difference between the 2 in terms of reliability. they both are FI, they both can blow your engine, and both need to be tuned. even if you buy a boxed vortech it should be strapped on a dyno and double check the settings on your system, i doubt its perfect from the factory.

and yes there have been vortechs that blew engines.

 

Overboost has absolutely nothing to do with tuning... and damn... I don't even care to pick apart that sad excuse for a post. You would have been closer to the truth if you blindfolded yourself and slammed your forehead on the keyboard a few times.

 

That is one of the funniest response to a post I think I have heard in a while!! I might just put your qoute in my sig. hahah
BEN

 

NOBI- I don't even have to reply to your idiocy because Taurran said exactly what was needed. You=have no clue. So continue to blab, but nobody's gonna listen.

 

Serious ownage in here.......LOL.

 

Do you want the car to talk to? turbo boost in micheal nights car maybe cost couple hundred grand or more Just kidding, had to say something.