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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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which generates more heat under the hood? a TT or a ST setup??
to be specific APS TT or TN ST?
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DXB350Z
which generates more heat under the hood? a TT or a ST setup??
to be specific APS TT or TN ST?
I know the obvious answer but in reality you would need to test back to back to get exact variances. I will say that my coolant temp is a steady 180-185 under cruise conditions and no higher then 195-200 under high load.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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Is this really an issue? It doesn't seem to be an issue with other cars. Why would it be different with a 350Z/G35.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Gman..i reside in the middle east...and on the contrary of you guys..we tend to put our cars to sleep during summer..and can only wake'em up in the winter..lol
i really love both kits..researched both kits..and just drawing my final lines before making a final decision
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Gman..i reside in the middle east...and on the contrary of you guys..we tend to put our cars to sleep during summer..and can only wake'em up in the winter..lol
i really love both kits..researched both kits..and just drawing my final lines before making a final decision
In reality what you should be asking is what are the coolant and oil temps with both kits...
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i wanna make a choice that i will not regret...please help...
wat ***** me up more is that with the TN i will have to purchase an oilpan spcr (recommended for our climate conditions) as well as an EMS....so the TN will set back about $1.3K cheaper than the APS TT...shall i push my budget or what? aaaaaaaah..i hate making such determenistic decisions.
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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i wanna make a choice that i will not regret...please help...
wat ***** me up more is that with the TN i will have to purchase an oilpan spcr (recommended for our climate conditions) as well as an EMS....so the TN will set back about $1.3K cheaper than the APS TT...shall i push my budget or what? aaaaaaaah..i hate making such determenistic decisions.
Have you considered the Turbonetics tuner kit?

The inital price is is $500 cheaper. Then jsut buy injectors, EMS, fuel pump and pan spacer...
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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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The APS TT has watercooled turbos, so maybe that might help in your conditions.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
In reality what you should be asking is what are the coolant and oil temps with both kits...
well..i thought about asking my question in that manner..however.the gauge reading will differ from climate to another..meaning that a TN owner in florida will/could have higher gauge readings than a TN owner in....lets say WashDC..

nevertheless..thank you MIA for your quick responses..
please correct me if i am wrong
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Have you considered the Turbonetics tuner kit?

The inital price is is $500 cheaper. Then jsut buy injectors, EMS, fuel pump and pan spacer...
tried that...it will still run me in the same range
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Originally Posted by DXB350Z
well..i thought about asking my question in that manner..however.the gauge reading will differ from climate to another..meaning that a TN owner in florida will/could have higher gauge readings than a TN owner in....lets say WashDC..

nevertheless..thank you MIA for your quick responses..
please correct me if i am wrong
You are correct. What you ideally would look for is the delta between N/A and boosted... So the person would need reading pre-turbo and then after.
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don't take it as fact, but my guess would be that TT's generate more heat because there's 2 turbos running and they're right down there close to the engine kinda by the oil pan. But then again, maybe there's more air flow with them being that low?

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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you know why i love the TN...coz i could actually see what i paid a fortune for...!!
oh well....
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Originally Posted by DXB350Z
which generates more heat under the hood? a TT or a ST setup??
to be specific APS TT or TN ST?

A coworker of mine lived in Dubai and from what she told me, you guys have exeptionally good roads, so ground clearence is not that much of an issue for you. Also, since you have hardly any rain or snow, you don't need to worry about hot turbo being splashed with water. Having said that, I think that your best bet would be APS ST, if you absultely must go ST. Now, before I get into a fight with anyone, I don't think that any kit is best. There are kits that are better suited for a given situation, and in your case having a very hot piece of metal in the middle of your engine bay in the summer desert heat is not the best idea ever.
But an SFR TT has lowest sitting turbos in all of the TT kits, and the base one is in the price range with APS TT.
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yeah..i agree with what you said OLEG...APS ST was considered...but if i were to go ST..i think it would be TN and if i were to go TT...APS...
i will definately will be adding cooling mods along the way..but for starters i will only add an oil cooler..
maybe it would be wise for me to wait till after the summer and see what Uncle TN will offer with his 1.5 kit...
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Do you even have any Unichip tuners over there?? You could always add a vented hood if you want the look/think the heat is too much of an issue with either kit..
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Originally Posted by DXB350Z
yeah..i agree with what you said OLEG...APS ST was considered...but if i were to go ST..i think it would be TN and if i were to go TT...APS...
i will definately will be adding cooling mods along the way..but for starters i will only add an oil cooler..
maybe it would be wise for me to wait till after the summer and see what Uncle TN will offer with his 1.5 kit...

OK, but what's wrong with the SFR's TT?
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yeah I agree, just get a vented hood, oil cooler, bigger radiator, aftermarket oil pan (comes with APS kits) and lots of thermowrapping of wires and hoses etc and ceramic coat some of the key parts and you'll be more than fine with heat
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Originally Posted by Alberto
Do you even have any Unichip tuners over there?? You could always add a vented hood if you want the look/think the heat is too much of an issue with either kit..
Yes..we have Proffesionally Trained UNICHIP Tuners/dealers here...as well as some other Motec masters...but damn..the motec is an expensive EMS..ranges from $2.5k~$4k

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Old Apr 4, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
yeah I agree, just get a vented hood, oil cooler, bigger radiator, aftermarket oil pan (comes with APS kits) and lots of thermowrapping of wires and hoses etc and ceramic coat some of the key parts and you'll be more than fine with heat
yeah...that sounds like a plan...
thanks sentry,,,very much appreciated
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