Nice breakdown... I'm sure your car is going to be sick when it's done. Keep up the posts on the progress made.

 

I'm doing it with your injectors Dave..... How's that order progressing?

I can't argue the point of my claim being accurate or not. I have no evidence. So draw your own conclusions. From a roll he got off the line much faster. I would say he got about 2 car legnths but by about 130 I had 2 car legnths over him.

No cams Alberto.... I can't afford it. I have to draw the line somewhere, and wherever we end up with the mentioned modifications is where we will be. 500 rwhp is more than enough for me. I would like to max out the T60, and unless I'm mistaken that would be the most powerful T60 350Z to date.

Respect
JET

 

so what youre saying is that (on paper) your car is a tad bit slower than the porsche CGT, but faster than the 06 ZO6 and Ford GT and Gallardos?


uh, ok.

 

I raced 2 Gallardo's.... one with an E-Gear, and one a standard shift. I beat them both. I never had a Viper beat me yet.

Do you not understand power to weight ratio? Uhhhhmmmmm ok.....

This retarted conversation is finished. This is like arguing with the mentally challenged. Sorry if you have an APS kit and don't have the skilz to put the smack down.

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JET

 

guys, dont argue with JET .. he won't lose ... or at least he will never stop.

Aside from that .. good luck with the build, glad to see Sharif taking care of you.

 

I don't think that was a compliment...

But thanks for the wish of luck.

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JET

 

You're right. He obviously can't lose. I mean he smokes stock vipers from 0-125mph by 4 CARS!!! The same stock viper that clicks off consistent 11 second 1320s in the 125mph range! I've heard Shariff is the man and will greatly seek him out when my Z's time comes, but you have to have a 9 second car as it sits to do that to a viper that is truly racing. Why are you wanting more power?

Sorry to bust your bubble but I think you got a little carried away in the first post. There is no math to do--only that your equation is off. Spend some time at the strip. Cartek H/C gears vettes--10.2 at 126mph NA with 400-450rwhp--------750rwhp supra/V6----low 12s It's not all math--it's power under the curve.

 

4 car legnths is about 4/10th of a second at 125mph. So how do you figure you need a 9 second car to pull 4 car legnths?

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JET

 

hey, hey, hey, theres no reason to get your pink panties in a bunch, just stating the facts.

i thought stock Z06s ran the 1/4 in the low 11s. correct me if im wrong. JET, what was your last 1/4 time?

why dont you put a stocker back in, seems like you were the fastest car on the road with that.

 

That is with an excellent driver and an even better prepped track. I believe most drivers will run low 12s-high 11s.

I think my car would be in the area of a bone stock Viper. I've seen brand new ones running 12's on the 1/4mi. However, I think with any decent driving ability behind the wheel of a Viper and I'd get pulled. Funny though, I see one every week or two and its ALWAYS driving the other direction.

In the end, its only about traction and driver skill. Power wise, these cars are in the same ballpark.

 

I already stated the facts. Weight Vs power. I never ran my car @ the track so I don't have a 1/4 mi time.

What possible reason do I have to come here and lie. I know or have met a lot of people here on the forum. I know Sharif, I know Eric & Matt @ CP Racing, I know Dave & Mike @ AAM, I know Kelly (KCobean) plus numerous members, local to me, here on the board. What do I have to gain about lying except look like a fool to these people.

I could understand if @ 410 rwhp I wasn't within the power to weight ratio of the Viper or Gallardo, but I am.

Whay am I wanting more power? Because with a forged motor I can.... pretty stupid question.

Like I said 4 car legnths @ 125mph is only about 4/10th of a second.

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JET

 

whatever you say.

you must not be "understanding" my sarcasm.

 

Thumbs up Jet!

I am right behind you...
I will (eventually) have Sharif build my Z and explore the limits of a PE TT.

Pilot_Z

 

What I really don't "understand" is why you feel the need to call me out and accuse me of lying. My claims are not that outrageous. But for some reason you feel they are which confuses me a little.

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JET

 

You couldn't have anyone do a better job. Sharif is first class. With the PE TT that will be some sick power. I can't even imagine driving a car with 600+ wheel horespower.

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JET

 

PROJECT UPDATE...

I took the engine apart today. There is no sign of detonation whatsoever on the pistons or heads/headgaskets. The top of the connecting rod snapped just below where it attaches to the wrist pin. So the tune Sharif gave me wasn't the issue. I never thought it was. But now he is officially off the hook.

The rod actually did go through the block and the upper oil pan is cracked as well. The head is fine. The piston was shattered into thousands of pieces. So there is no salvaging the engine block.

I used synthetic oil and the main bearings looked brand new after 33,000 miles. The cam bearings showed zero wear as well. The motor was really really clean.

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JET

 

It seems to point toward a factory defficiency in stock connecting rods, or else a large variance in quality standards from one batch to the next. In that case, blowing your motor may be as simple as luck of the draw as long as you don't overboost, hit the rev limiter, or have significant detonation.

Many of these single turbo kits are putting down huge amounts of torque quite early in the powerband, causing a greater strain on the connecting rods. For instance, on my previous dyno the car put down in the area of 430ft/lbs. This is roughtly the same abount of torque as a greddy or aps tt'd car operating at 450+whp on the same dyno...

In that case, only time will tell if the rest of us have a strong motor or not.

 

C6Zs are in the high 10s with DR. Cam and headers are netting almost mid 500rwhp/tq. and are in the low 10s.

JET--If you take your Z to the track and crack off some 12s/13s with your 410rhwp setup you'll understand where I'm coming from. A viper will trap about 120-125 in the 1320 (from a stop)--thats high 11s low 12s depending on the 60' time. The driver, traction and torque make the difference. That's why so many imports want to go from a roll--its in the turbo's power band and it's simply mash and go.

Good luck with the extra power though--YOU should be int he 7's

IN ORDER FOR YOU TO BEAT AN 11 SEC that traps 120-125 mph CAR BY 4 LENGTHS 0-125 YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST A 9 SECOND CAR and trap mid 130s at least!!! Go to the track and see and stop bench racing!!!

Sorry for the rant--I'm done. Just don't tell anymore stories

 

Are you done yet? Why don't you race him?? Just a thought...

Jet congrats on the build, sorry about the motor. I can't wait to see what the car puts out. I am really leaning towards the TN kit. Good luck with everything, get some vids and some times.

 

He can race me from there--------I'm assuming that's how he beats vipers so badly

I trap 104-106 in the 1.8 and low to mid 130s in the 1/4 on BFG KD rubber--not DR with ALOT MORE hp/tq----now way he would be close in the real world.

No problems with the build up, etc, but keep the BS off here or at least make it believable!