DSport VRT Article!
08-31-2006, 10:07 AM
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Bob's car is awesome..... he drives it to the shows, the track and his daily driver. I think I also caught him blasting his system on the track... probably why you can't concentrate man.
08-31-2006, 11:30 AM
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LOL!!! I only turn on the sytem when I get off the track, that way people think it was on while I was out.....shhhhhhhh.
Thanks for the props, and VRT does build awesome cars!!
Thanks for the props, and VRT does build awesome cars!!
09-01-2006, 07:20 AM
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Those are the numbers, why do you say that it is just not possible??? I dont understand, if you look at all the JWT VRT cars that is pretty much the ratio once you get over 10PSI.
09-01-2006, 08:15 AM
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Sick numbers... Why not push harder than 12.5psi??? With the engine build out, I'd expect it to hold 15 without breaking a sweat. As a daily driver though, anything starting with a "5" is insane.
Congrats on the coverage and props to an awesome car.
Congrats on the coverage and props to an awesome car.
09-01-2006, 08:43 AM
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Turbo Efficiency.
The JWT standard kit USES The GT25s and can only flow sooo much air.
With this kit we concentrate on the car making 450-550, yet around 500 WHP is perfect as Bob's car IS!
Depending on Exhaust, Cams, spacers, etc, Some do it with 12.5 and some 14 PSI. Knowing the turbo's limits is important. Then you do not unnecessarily keep turning up the boost and stressing the motor for the turbos can only make what they make.
If he wants bigger numbers, Bob will have to Upgrade to the VRT/JWT BB700 custom kit and then look for 600+ WHP. As for these turbos and torque, when you boost higher then 10-11 PSI, because these are smaller turbos, the Torque begins to OUTPERFORM THE WHP numbers. Seen it happen time after time after time.
And please do not just appreciate the numbers, this car is COMPLETE and all around sick from the AP Racing Brakes, to the Volks, the tires, suspension, gauges, stereo, and more. AWESOME.
The cool thing, he can take his wife out to dinner comfortably on Saturday night, then slap some Hoosier rubber and kill it on the track without adjusting a thing.
DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS?
M
The JWT standard kit USES The GT25s and can only flow sooo much air.
With this kit we concentrate on the car making 450-550, yet around 500 WHP is perfect as Bob's car IS!
Depending on Exhaust, Cams, spacers, etc, Some do it with 12.5 and some 14 PSI. Knowing the turbo's limits is important. Then you do not unnecessarily keep turning up the boost and stressing the motor for the turbos can only make what they make.
If he wants bigger numbers, Bob will have to Upgrade to the VRT/JWT BB700 custom kit and then look for 600+ WHP. As for these turbos and torque, when you boost higher then 10-11 PSI, because these are smaller turbos, the Torque begins to OUTPERFORM THE WHP numbers. Seen it happen time after time after time.
And please do not just appreciate the numbers, this car is COMPLETE and all around sick from the AP Racing Brakes, to the Volks, the tires, suspension, gauges, stereo, and more. AWESOME.
The cool thing, he can take his wife out to dinner comfortably on Saturday night, then slap some Hoosier rubber and kill it on the track without adjusting a thing.
DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS?
M
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09-01-2006, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
Turbo Efficiency.
The JWT standard kit USES The GT25s and can only flow sooo much air.
With this kit we concentrate on the car making 450-550, yet around 500 WHP is perfect as Bob's car IS!
Depending on Exhaust, Cams, spacers, etc, Some do it with 12.5 and some 14 PSI. Knowing the turbo's limits is important. Then you do not unnecessarily keep turning up the boost and stressing the motor for the turbos can only make what they make.
If he wants bigger numbers, Bob will have to Upgrade to the VRT/JWT BB700 custom kit and then look for 600+ WHP. As for these turbos and torque, when you boost higher then 10-11 PSI, because these are smaller turbos, the Torque begins to OUTPERFORM THE WHP numbers. Seen it happen time after time after time.
And please do not just appreciate the numbers, this car is COMPLETE and all around sick from the AP Racing Brakes, to the Volks, the tires, suspension, gauges, stereo, and more. AWESOME.
The cool thing, he can take his wife out to dinner comfortably on Saturday night, then slap some Hoosier runner and kill it on the track without adjusting a thing.
DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS?
M
The JWT standard kit USES The GT25s and can only flow sooo much air.
With this kit we concentrate on the car making 450-550, yet around 500 WHP is perfect as Bob's car IS!
Depending on Exhaust, Cams, spacers, etc, Some do it with 12.5 and some 14 PSI. Knowing the turbo's limits is important. Then you do not unnecessarily keep turning up the boost and stressing the motor for the turbos can only make what they make.
If he wants bigger numbers, Bob will have to Upgrade to the VRT/JWT BB700 custom kit and then look for 600+ WHP. As for these turbos and torque, when you boost higher then 10-11 PSI, because these are smaller turbos, the Torque begins to OUTPERFORM THE WHP numbers. Seen it happen time after time after time.
And please do not just appreciate the numbers, this car is COMPLETE and all around sick from the AP Racing Brakes, to the Volks, the tires, suspension, gauges, stereo, and more. AWESOME.
The cool thing, he can take his wife out to dinner comfortably on Saturday night, then slap some Hoosier runner and kill it on the track without adjusting a thing.
DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS?
M
I read the article.Nice job Mike.You guys did good.It seems to me as though this car has some real world horsepower numbers that nobody will argue with
Tim
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09-01-2006, 08:54 AM
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Ahhhh... Ok. One of the things I've heard so much praise about with the JWT kit was the fact that the smaller turbos spool up so much faster and produce so much torque as a result. But I can definitely see how it could impact the ceiling for boost levels too. In any case, monster numbers for a street driver and a reliable build to boot is always great in my book.
Congrats again.
Congrats again.
09-01-2006, 09:01 AM
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Bob- Looks good, car was amazing when u took me 4 that ride, brakes stop like no bodys business, looking to come down to VRT at end of the month, hopefully my car will grace those pages soon!!!!!, Dan
09-01-2006, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Navygolf13
Those are the numbers, why do you say that it is just not possible??? I dont understand, if you look at all the JWT VRT cars that is pretty much the ratio once you get over 10PSI.
( Torque x RPM ) / 5,252 = Horsepower
That's a fact.
DSport listed
504 whp @ 6800 rpm
567 wtq @ 6800 rpm
Those numbers don't jive at 6800 rpm. There is no way you can be making both 504 whp and 567 lb-ft at 6800 rpm. 567 lb-ft at 6800 rpm is 734 whp, and 504 whp at 6800 rpm is 389 lb-ft. I'm not saying the peak numbers are wrong, but they're incorrect for those rpm points. So either you actually hit peak at 6800 rpm and the numbers are wrong, or the numbers are correct with the rpm being wrong.
I'm just asking for clarification since that's what I read from the scanned pages, and am genuinely interested in your car's power curve. You'll probably want to contact DSport to mark a correction in their next issue because anybody who actually reads the details is going to question it.
09-01-2006, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by helldorado
HP is a mathematical calculation based off of a constant of engine torque over RPM.
( Torque x RPM ) / 5,252 = Horsepower
That's a fact.
DSport listed
504 whp @ 6800 rpm
567 wtq @ 6800 rpm
Those numbers don't jive at 6800 rpm. There is no way you can be making both 504 whp and 567 lb-ft at 6800 rpm. 567 lb-ft at 6800 rpm is 734 whp, and 504 whp at 6800 rpm is 389 lb-ft. I'm not saying the peak numbers are wrong, but they're incorrect for those rpm points. So either you actually hit peak at 6800 rpm and the numbers are wrong, or the numbers are correct with the rpm being wrong.
I'm just asking for clarification since that's what I read from the scanned pages, and am genuinely interested in your car's power curve. You'll probably want to contact DSport to mark a correction in their next issue because anybody who actually reads the details is going to question it.
( Torque x RPM ) / 5,252 = Horsepower
That's a fact.
DSport listed
504 whp @ 6800 rpm
567 wtq @ 6800 rpm
Those numbers don't jive at 6800 rpm. There is no way you can be making both 504 whp and 567 lb-ft at 6800 rpm. 567 lb-ft at 6800 rpm is 734 whp, and 504 whp at 6800 rpm is 389 lb-ft. I'm not saying the peak numbers are wrong, but they're incorrect for those rpm points. So either you actually hit peak at 6800 rpm and the numbers are wrong, or the numbers are correct with the rpm being wrong.
I'm just asking for clarification since that's what I read from the scanned pages, and am genuinely interested in your car's power curve. You'll probably want to contact DSport to mark a correction in their next issue because anybody who actually reads the details is going to question it.
They took the peak torque from the RPM from WHP. The peal torque hits at around 3500.
Here is the dyno, see yourself.
M
Originally Posted by TurboTim
I read the article.Nice job Mike.You guys did good.It seems to me as though this car has some real world horsepower numbers that nobody will argue with
Tim
Tim
Last edited by mraturbo; 09-01-2006 at 11:06 AM.
09-01-2006, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mraturbo
You are correct helldorado
They took the peak torque from the RPM from WHP. The peal torque hits at around 3500.
Here is the dyno, see yourself.
M
They took the peak torque from the RPM from WHP. The peal torque hits at around 3500.
Here is the dyno, see yourself.
M
09-01-2006, 04:05 PM
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Thanks everyone for the interest and comments!! I will get some pics posted up here in relation to what Michael was saying. My wife and I do drive the car and she loves it. We went to San Fran last weekend and put over 1,000 miles on the car, runs perfect. If I wanted to I could have stopped at a track on the way back and beat the crap out of it.
There is no doubt that VRT built an all around car here. As for bigger numbers they are to come and it will never stop, but one thing is for sure I will always be out and about and if you see me say hi and we can talk for a while. Always nice to put faces to names.
There is no doubt that VRT built an all around car here. As for bigger numbers they are to come and it will never stop, but one thing is for sure I will always be out and about and if you see me say hi and we can talk for a while. Always nice to put faces to names.
09-01-2006, 04:06 PM
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Thanks Michael, I appreciate the clarification on that questions. Did not realize exactly what the question was, but you guys are absolutely right, cant have those numbers at the same RPM. LOL!