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Old 06-14-2007, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DSport G35
Here is my custom setup capable of 800hp+:
-Relocated Battery(Braille) to the trunk
-Aeromotive A1000 Fuel Pump
-Aeromotive FPR & Fuel Filter
-Speed Machine Performance Surge Tank
-(1)In-tank Walbro 255 pump
-Fragola Lines and fittings
-OEM Fuel Rails with welded fittings

All of these parts are relatively cheap except for the Fragola Lines and Fittings, top quality stuff. The sound level isn't to bad, especially since you're going to be shooting for 700hp which means you will have a reasonably loud exhaust setup.
Personally i would opt for a larger surge can, much larger, since your only feeding it with a single walbro 255. But i guess it all depends on what your planning on doing with the car. Do you have a surge can overflow feeding a return correction kit to keep your siphon in the tank working? that is a must if you want to run the full tank with this type of setup. last question, i gave you a set of fuel rails like 2 years ago, why didnt you just use those?!? haha.
Old 06-14-2007, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DSport G35
EXACTLY!
That kind of stuff is sweet for sure, but you must admit that there is a huge appeal to having an OEM like setup all in the factory fuel tank... something about OEM simplicity and quietness. Unfortunately a lot of time and effort goes into engineering a setup that is just as flawless as the OEM setup but can perform at 2-3 times the capacity.
Old 06-14-2007, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by MRC Motorsports

oh man.. you didn't tell me you were putting that in my car
Old 06-14-2007, 11:46 AM
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^ They sounds like vacume cleaner. Need to be stealthy.
Old 06-14-2007, 12:00 PM
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isn't SP way off from being ready? they are still working on their TT Kit
Old 06-14-2007, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
Personally i would opt for a larger surge can, much larger, since your only feeding it with a single walbro 255. But i guess it all depends on what your planning on doing with the car. Do you have a surge can overflow feeding a return correction kit to keep your siphon in the tank working? that is a must if you want to run the full tank with this type of setup. last question, i gave you a set of fuel rails like 2 years ago, why didnt you just use those?!? haha.
Thanks for the info Charles, I will look into the bigger surge can. At the time I was building this fuel setup we were using the your rails in a photoshoot for the Press Release that we did in our new products section of DSport and the photographer ended up leaving them at the photo studio. So I had to finish my setup with the OEM rails, but we have another 350Z project car that we are currently using them on. Believe me, I was pissed, those are the nicest rails available and I will probably end up buying another set off you in the future. Thanks Charles.
Old 06-14-2007, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Blu_Blur
It's called the Old School Pump.

Old School blows HARD!

I try and strive to be the best.....your mom is still number 1 though. She could suck-start a leaf blower.
Old 06-14-2007, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
there are probably 8 guys that would love to choke me to death right now over the stage 3 kit and empty promises. i am just crossing my fingers that this unit in SPs car performs flawless in the functions we are monitoring so that they can start going out.
How about the intake manifold. I could choke you for that one.

JET
Old 06-14-2007, 02:32 PM
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Why has no one mentioned the APS extreme fuel system? Clean install, good value, quality parts and I believe it is more than capable of 700whp.
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big MF'ing pump for the win!!!!

aeromotive is for babies........step up to a big weldon!!! This one is good for 2400 HP and up to 80 psi. They have pumps for up to 4000HP!!!


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Old 06-14-2007, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ht4
Why has no one mentioned the APS extreme fuel system? Clean install, good value, quality parts and I believe it is more than capable of 700whp.
the problem is that They wont sell only the fuel pump assembly, which is what I'm looking for.
Old 06-14-2007, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
That kind of stuff is sweet for sure, but you must admit that there is a huge appeal to having an OEM like setup all in the factory fuel tank... something about OEM simplicity and quietness. Unfortunately a lot of time and effort goes into engineering a setup that is just as flawless as the OEM setup but can perform at 2-3 times the capacity.
I very much understand you as we have spoken before, all that I need is one system to try it out.
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Originally Posted by carlosG
the problem is that They wont sell only the fuel pump assembly, which is what I'm looking for.
In which case, what about the AAM system?
Old 06-14-2007, 04:02 PM
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how much longer should the wait be on this stage 3? any projected dates?
Old 06-14-2007, 04:37 PM
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projected dates have came and gone more times then i would like to admit, so id rather not try to give another.

there has been a lack of priority on it, but i need not explain why since it doesnt really matter. current reports are positive, and if nothing comes up that is more than a minor adjustment away, then its done already. its running, in a car, with no current issues.
Old 06-14-2007, 06:58 PM
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so how exactly do i get on this list of 50?
Old 06-14-2007, 09:43 PM
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Phunk,

I am glad to hear you are almost done with your testing, You make an awesome product and I am sure it will be very successful, give me a call when you get a chance, Thanks.

-George
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Old 06-15-2007, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ht4
Why has no one mentioned the APS extreme fuel system? Clean install, good value, quality parts and I believe it is more than capable of 700whp.
Small injectors that were actually bumped (via voltage) to "800cc" / swirl pot issues / proprietary rails. Better than AAM stage 1, but not by much. Not worth the $2k price tag that you'd have to pay to get one IMO.

Originally Posted by ht4
In which case, what about the AAM system?
Not bad either, but for high horsepower, the AAM Stage II falls short. Reason is that the bosch pump can pull all of the fuel out of the surge tank quicker than the in-tank walbro can keep it filled. Then you're right back where you started - fuel starvation.


For 700whp, both kits "could" get you there, but at their limits. Nitrouz made 700+ at GTM on the APS extreme fuel system. And BamBam made good power on the AAM Stage II (don't recall how much, but it was a lot ), but I believe he's pulling the Stage II and working a custom setup now...

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Old 06-15-2007, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by doug
so how exactly do i get on this list of 50?
you are already one of the very first on the list, if your still here when the things are shipping out; you will have one of them that goes out in the first wave.
Old 06-15-2007, 10:19 AM
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These big pumps just sound mean and when you hear one of these on a car, you know they are not fu*king around. I actually like the
Weldon pumps over the Aermotive but they are much more expensive.


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