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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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Not looking to start any problems, but the fuel rail doesn't have anything in common with a CJM rail, except that it is also blue. The rail looks like if has been ground down on one side to make it fit, there is no CJM etched logo on it, and the barrels were the injectors go into place are too big. I think it would be pretty hard for a professional to mistake these for a CJM kit, but hey mistakes do happen.

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EDIT: The kinked hard line was from another car, my mistake - this kit did not come with a hard line.

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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to the eric n dougs posts...i mean can it be more pathetic...how blind do you have to be...whats the excuse.. VRT never used fuel return systems in their 800whp car??? so there for they dont one how one looks like?

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
Not looking to start any problems, but the fuel rail doesn't have anything in common with a CJM rail, except that it is also blue. The rail looks like if has been ground down on one side to make it fit, there is no CJM etched logo on it, and the barrels were the injectors go into place are too big. I think it would be pretty hard for a professional to mistake these for a CJM kit, but hey mistakes do happen.

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Also the hardline under the car was severely kinked and needed to be replaced.
Well to answer that, as I stated I did not know myself what it was.....I was a worker there, I do not consider myself a professional or the king of Nissan tuner cars. And once again it wasn't me selling it, and I don't care. BUT I CAN tell you it wasn't an intentional scam. And i'm pretty sure if the buyer contacted Scott things would be cleared up.

AND I CAN vouch for the hardline not being kinked. It was perfect. Maybe it was kinked in the year or more it has been sitting around.
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
Not looking to start any problems, but the fuel rail doesn't have anything in common with a CJM rail, except that it is also blue. The rail looks like if has been ground down on one side to make it fit, there is no CJM etched logo on it, and the barrels were the injectors go into place are too big. I think it would be pretty hard for a professional to mistake these for a CJM kit, but hey mistakes do happen.

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Also the hardline under the car was severely kinked and needed to be replaced.
+1 I've seen pics on this site of the CJM fuel rails with the CJM logo etched in.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:53 PM
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Well to answer that, as I stated I did not know myself what it was.....I was a worker there, I do not consider myself a professional or the king of Nissan tuner cars. And once again it wasn't me selling it, and I don't care. BUT I CAN tell you it wasn't an intentional scam. And i'm pretty sure if the buyer contacted Scott things would be cleared up.

AND I CAN vouch for the hardline not being kinked. It was perfect. Maybe it was kinked in the year or more it has been sitting around.
Not trying to accuse anyone or start any trouble, just stating the facts.

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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Just FYI...

I have no idea wtf is going on in this thread, just read the last few posts.

There are at least 60-80 sets of CJM rails out there that do not have the logo on them. The EDM process for the logo wasnt used for a while after production started.. however the place for the logo was always there as we always intended on eventually getting to it, as we did. Also, there even a few sets, maybe 10 or so, that in the last year went out without the logo on them. We have been trying to make sure everything is logo'd and anodized these days, but sometimes people need their stuff ASAP and tell us to just ship it anyway and save them the week spent at the anodizers, etc.

With pictures I could authenticate if any of the stuff is ours.

Plenty of guys just buy our rails and some of the hoses and build their own systems from there.
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
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to the eric n dougs posts...i mean can it be more pathetic...how blind do you have to be...whats the excuse.. VRT never used fuel return systems in their 800whp car??? so there for they dont one how one looks like?
No, they have always used Jim Wolf's method of a high voltage FMU to control fuel. I'm not sure, but I know they have their reasons of not using a fuel return line, It has something to do with not wanting to heat up all of your fuel.
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Originally Posted by FrickU
Surprisingly enough at the time no. We never really used fuel return systems. So wrong or right we took the customer/builders word for on what brand it was. It was sold for the customer. Not for Scott personally. Speaking for myself...I have never even heard of CJM, let alone even know what the differences between that return system, or any other one.
Considering the number of CJM threads I've seen in the FI section and the fact that both Scott and yourself have spent a decent amount of time in the FI section, I find your statement really hard to believe.
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Originally Posted by FrickU
Surprisingly enough at the time no. We never really used fuel return systems. So wrong or right we took the customer/builders word for on what brand it was. It was sold for the customer. Not for Scott personally. Speaking for myself...I have never even heard of CJM, let alone even know what the differences between that return system, or any other one.

My question as an outsider is :
How can you vouch for someone and how can you legit post something for sale ,
If you have never worked with something before?
Also please ask how would you run a successful high boost application without a fuel system?

I dont usually post on these matters but I would really like to know the answers.

I know you will run to Scott and tell him so tell him r0mey asked.

Edit: Furthermore you say "we" do you work at the shop too?

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Originally Posted by phunk
Just FYI...

I have no idea wtf is going on in this thread, just read the last few posts.

There are at least 60-80 sets of CJM rails out there that do not have the logo on them. The EDM process for the logo wasnt used for a while after production started.. however the place for the logo was always there as we always intended on eventually getting to it, as we did. Also, there even a few sets, maybe 10 or so, that in the last year went out without the logo on them. We have been trying to make sure everything is logo'd and anodized these days, but sometimes people need their stuff ASAP and tell us to just ship it anyway and save them the week spent at the anodizers, etc.

With pictures I could authenticate if any of the stuff is ours.

Plenty of guys just buy our rails and some of the hoses and build their own systems from there.
How dare you rerail the lynching party..
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Originally Posted by FrickU
No, they have always used Jim Wolf's method of a high voltage FMU to control fuel. I'm not sure, but I know they have their reasons of not using a fuel return line, It has something to do with not wanting to heat up all of your fuel.

right...
because we have seen VQs caught on fire? but anyways....

for someone that works in a performance shop you dont seem to know much...what did you do...detail de cars?, clean used parts before being reinstalled on build engines?
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Originally Posted by phunk
Just FYI...

I have no idea wtf is going on in this thread, just read the last few posts.

There are at least 60-80 sets of CJM rails out there that do not have the logo on them. The EDM process for the logo wasnt used for a while after production started.. however the place for the logo was always there as we always intended on eventually getting to it, as we did. Also, there even a few sets, maybe 10 or so, that in the last year went out without the logo on them. We have been trying to make sure everything is logo'd and anodized these days, but sometimes people need their stuff ASAP and tell us to just ship it anyway and save them the week spent at the anodizers, etc.

With pictures I could authenticate if any of the stuff is ours.

Plenty of guys just buy our rails and some of the hoses and build their own systems from there.
I'm not sure, but it makes perfect sense that car was sitting for quite a while before it was brought to Scott.
Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
There are at least 60-80 sets of CJM rails out there that do not have the logo on them.
On that note... where the hell do all the rails go? Ive been on this forum since the FI rage started and I always see the same 20-30 guys... whos buying all this stuff??
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
right...
because we have seen VQs caught on fire? but anyways....

for someone that works in a performance shop you dont seem to know much...what did you do...detail de cars?, clean used parts before being reinstalled on build engines?
You can degrade me all you want, not once have I ever claimed to be a tuner/motor builder/master tech. So whats you're point on the post.
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Originally Posted by r0mey
My question as an outsider is :
How can you vouch for someone and how can you legit post something for sale ,
If you have never worked with something before?
Also please ask how would you run a successful high boost application without a fuel system?

I dont usually post on these matters but I would really like to know the answers.

I know you will run to Scott and tell him so tell him r0mey asked.

Edit: Furthermore you say "we" do you work at the shop too?
Cough! Cough!

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Old Feb 12, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
On that note... where the hell do all the rails go? Ive been on this forum since the FI rage started and I always see the same 20-30 guys... whos buying all this stuff??

i bought 25.. i'm starting my own monopoly *evil laugh*
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Originally Posted by FrickU
You can degrade me all you want, not once have I ever claimed to be a tuner/motor builder/master tech. So whats you're point on the post.
He made it quite clear that he wanted to know what exactly you do in the shop.
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Originally Posted by monokuroboo
He made it quite clear that he wanted to know what exactly you do in the shop.
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Originally Posted by monokuroboo
He made it quite clear that he wanted to know what exactly you do in the shop.
some people cannot read ovbious



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