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Old 02-03-2008 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
It's that kind of mindset that has held this community back from eclipsing the power numbers of the Supra sooner. Luckily, renowned Supra shops like Intense and companies like PowerLab are now focused on the VQ motor to prove that a single turbo is just as effective (in fact more so) than it is on the Supra.

Check the other PowerLab threads that show the dynographs of a 76S turbo on a Supra and Intense's widebody G. Given the same turbo, the VQ will make more power with a better powerband than the 2JZ. Period.

Im just saying the Supra is a no brainer to go single for big numbers. If the 350z was a similar no brainer why would intense be doing the twin gt37 kit as well. I am not bashing this kit in the least, I have PMed intense multiple times about purchasing one in the upcoming weeks.
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The market has completely changed with the new turbos now on the market.
Old 02-03-2008 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
Im just saying the Supra is a no brainer to go single for big numbers. If the 350z was a similar no brainer why would intense be doing the twin gt37 kit as well. I am not bashing this kit in the least, I have PMed intense multiple times about purchasing one in the upcoming weeks.
I think it's because that's what this particular customer wants... a custom one-off twin kit capable of huge power. And because it looks unlike any other kit out there with both GT37R turbos up front and visible. Great for a show car, but not realistic for a production kit due to all the custom fab work and relocation of AC & power steering components.

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Originally Posted by RudeG_v2.0
I think it's because that's what this particular customer wants... a custom one-off twin kit capable of huge power. And because it looks unlike any other kit out there with both GT37R turbos up front and visible. Great for a show car.
I am just saying that people seem to think that just because the Supra has made notorious power with large single turbos that single turbos are the best way to go. The supra crowd went that direction because at the time the turbos on the market weren't the same as they are today (14 years later) and because the Supra is an inline 6.
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
I am just saying that people seem to think that just because the Supra has made notorious power with large single turbos that single turbos are the best way to go. The supra crowd went that direction because at the time the turbos on the market weren't the same as they are today (14 years later) and because the Supra is an inline 6.
The main factor of going with a big single, over larger twins.. Especially in a Z is cost alone. Someone asked in the other thread how much would it cost for the Twin 37R's and I responded with $35,000.. And that's to scratch the surface..

For similar power out of a single turbo kit you'd be in it for less then half of that price listed above.
Old 02-03-2008 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
I am just saying that people seem to think that just because the Supra has made notorious power with large single turbos that single turbos are the best way to go. The supra crowd went that direction because at the time the turbos on the market weren't the same as they are today (14 years later) and because the Supra is an inline 6.
I agree with you 100%!! Turbo kits back 10-15 years ago did not have as much technology as we do today. But there are alot of similarities and differences that can go either way with twins or Big single. I think a general theory is..... Faster spool and good low-mid range power = Twins... Ridiculious Mid-Top end power = Big Single. It all depends on how you drive, where your vehicles powerband is most of the time, and what you want to use the vehicle for. All in all.... We Love Turbos!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 9kFever
I am just saying that people seem to think that just because the Supra has made notorious power with large single turbos that single turbos are the best way to go.
considering how succesful supras have been with single turbos you should also consider how with the same boost same turbo the VQ will outperform a 2jz...sure 2jz stock can take more boost than a vq but nothing forged internals..sleeves cannot take care of.

for comparison sake, here's what a Supra does w/ the same Turbo (different boost pressures) but you can see how much of a difference there is in spool up time.
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considering how succesful supras have been with single turbos you should also consider how with the same boost same turbo the VQ will outperform a 2jz...sure 2jz stock can take more boost than a vq but nothing forged internals..sleeves cannot take care of.

for comparison sake, here's what a Supra does w/ the same Turbo (different boost pressures) but you can see how much of a difference there is in spool up time.

I wasn't arguing supra vs. 350z

I love this new kit. For me it has exactly what Im looking for. I was originally looking for a vortech because I had on on my s2000 and the ease of install and maintenance (rebuild blower, etc). This single turbo kit is the best of both world for me. Turbo torque and power under the curve plus the ease of install and maintenance.

One question...would crawford or alphawerks headers make much of a difference with this kit?
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can anyone post an overlay or a comparison between this kit and the greddy, aps, or either JWT kit at the same boost level. Thanks. I think the single is just a bit behind from what I could see. Not too far. I am looking for a highway/drag car that could hold its on a road course. They seem pretty close at 5252rpm taking into account dyno variation. Just wondering what the differences are at 3000-3500. What about the 632 vs a similar greddy kit?

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Originally Posted by 9kFever
One question...would crawford or alphawerks headers make much of a difference with this kit?

not sure but i am going to guess and say no...there might be a bit of a problem fitting it with the full 3" downpipe

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where can i find info on this powerlab kit plus i would love to see pics and prices please send me a link
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Originally Posted by OZZ33
where can i find info on this powerlab kit plus i would love to see pics and prices please send me a link


my350z link:

https://my350z.com/forum/questionable-posts/329465-powerlab-gt35r-single-turbo-kit-release.html


where to buy:

http://www.intensepower.com/pogttukit350.html
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Vq reving to 8000rpm like 2jz will be nice with gt35r.
Old 02-05-2008 | 03:11 PM
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Only 8000?
Our silver Supra shifts at 9200.. ahahh

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Originally Posted by rkd350z
Vq reving to 8000rpm like 2jz will be nice with gt35r.

ill try that with a 76S
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Can we see these graphs overlaid with rpm? imho that would give a better comparison. No doubt the VQ will give better results with a given turbo we are just 10 years behind their curve, lol.
Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
considering how succesful supras have been with single turbos you should also consider how with the same boost same turbo the VQ will outperform a 2jz...sure 2jz stock can take more boost than a vq but nothing forged internals..sleeves cannot take care of.

for comparison sake, here's what a Supra does w/ the same Turbo (different boost pressures) but you can see how much of a difference there is in spool up time.
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Knowing what someone has run in the 1/4 mile on a turbo kit really means jack.
Dyno sheet speaks louder then anything else.

400WHP 350Z might run 12.5 with Joe
400WHP 350Z might run 13.5 with bob
Old 02-05-2008 | 10:01 PM
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I really want this kit over TN single!!
I been wanting TN ST for while now b/c of easier install and Show purpose!
After i saw this kit when it first hit the forum! TN ST went down the hole, lol
It is soon or later till i own one!!
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Originally Posted by jeffie7
Knowing what someone has run in the 1/4 mile on a turbo kit really means jack.
Dyno sheet speaks louder then anything else.

400WHP 350Z might run 12.5 with Joe
400WHP 350Z might run 13.5 with bob
trap speed can be useful though. Atleast gives you a ball park.
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Originally Posted by jeffie7
Knowing what someone has run in the 1/4 mile on a turbo kit really means jack.
Dyno sheet speaks louder then anything else.

400WHP 350Z might run 12.5 with Joe
400WHP 350Z might run 13.5 with bob
traps speed tell also the story but ...
a dyno sheet it takes the driver out of the equation....

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