Headers on turbonetics?
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Headers on turbonetics?
Hey guys im looking to put a turbonetics kit on in the near future. Im wondering if my headers will be more of a problem than help with the install and performance of the kit.. and if i were to get a kit for the non revup for my revup how much changing is nessary..... Thanks
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Im starting the think my bad luck with all the exhaust fitment ive been having that past year is being caused by the headers not being exactly like stock. My Y pipe right now had to be forced up over the brace to get the mid pipe to fit and is now pushing down on the brace.... im not sure what the deal is but i deff dont want any turbo piping to be under that much stress...
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Originally Posted by smxtmpr34
Im starting the think my bad luck with all the exhaust fitment ive been having that past year is being caused by the headers not being exactly like stock. My Y pipe right now had to be forced up over the brace to get the mid pipe to fit and is now pushing down on the brace.... im not sure what the deal is but i deff dont want any turbo piping to be under that much stress...
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Originally Posted by smxtmpr34
Hey guys im looking to put a turbonetics kit on in the near future. Im wondering if my headers will be more of a problem than help with the install and performance of the kit.. and if i were to get a kit for the non revup for my revup how much changing is nessary..... Thanks
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To all you guys being asshats... do you actually know anything about the T-Netics kits? The kit doesn't come with manifolds, unlike most kits. Most turbo kits, headers would be a complete waste because they get replaced by the turbo manifolds that come in the kit. The T-Netics kit reuses the stock manifolds.
"Smxtmpr34", since you already bought headers, and the Z manifolds aren't heavy cast iron, normally I'd suggest wrapping them in fiberglass header wrap to retain heat (heat spools the turbo, not exhaust velocity), rather than re-installing the stock manifolds. However, I wouldn't trust Megan headers to take that kind of heat without cracking. Plus, it seems you're having fitment issues. In your case, I'd suggest swapping back to stock when you install the kit.
As for the other part of your question... The T-Netics kit relies on a re-flashed ECU for tuning. You therefore can't use a non-Rev-Up kit on a Rev-up car. You could get a tuner kit without the tuning and tune it yourself with either a UTEC of Hal-Tech. With this route, you'd still have to deal with making a new downpipe to go around the steering rack, if your car is an '06. The '06 rack is different than the earlier rack.
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"Smxtmpr34", since you already bought headers, and the Z manifolds aren't heavy cast iron, normally I'd suggest wrapping them in fiberglass header wrap to retain heat (heat spools the turbo, not exhaust velocity), rather than re-installing the stock manifolds. However, I wouldn't trust Megan headers to take that kind of heat without cracking. Plus, it seems you're having fitment issues. In your case, I'd suggest swapping back to stock when you install the kit.
As for the other part of your question... The T-Netics kit relies on a re-flashed ECU for tuning. You therefore can't use a non-Rev-Up kit on a Rev-up car. You could get a tuner kit without the tuning and tune it yourself with either a UTEC of Hal-Tech. With this route, you'd still have to deal with making a new downpipe to go around the steering rack, if your car is an '06. The '06 rack is different than the earlier rack.
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Originally Posted by i8acobra
To all you guys being asshats... do you actually know anything about the T-Netics kits? The kit doesn't come with manifolds, unlike most kits. Most turbo kits, headers would be a complete waste because they get replaced by the turbo manifolds that come in the kit. The T-Netics kit reuses the stock manifolds.
"Smxtmpr34", since you already bought headers, and the Z manifolds aren't heavy cast iron, normally I'd suggest wrapping them in fiberglass header wrap to retain heat (heat spools the turbo, not exhaust velocity), rather than re-installing the stock manifolds. However, I wouldn't trust Megan headers to take that kind of heat without cracking. Plus, it seems you're having fitment issues. In your case, I'd suggest swapping back to stock when you install the kit.
As for the other part of your question... The T-Netics kit relies on a re-flashed ECU for tuning. You therefore can't use a non-Rev-Up kit on a Rev-up car. You could get a tuner kit without the tuning and tune it yourself with either a UTEC of Hal-Tech. With this route, you'd still have to deal with making a new downpipe to go around the steering rack, if your car is an '06. The '06 rack is different than the earlier rack.
Attn asshats... this is the proper way to respond to a technical question. If you need any further tutoring on forum etiquette, PM me.
"Smxtmpr34", since you already bought headers, and the Z manifolds aren't heavy cast iron, normally I'd suggest wrapping them in fiberglass header wrap to retain heat (heat spools the turbo, not exhaust velocity), rather than re-installing the stock manifolds. However, I wouldn't trust Megan headers to take that kind of heat without cracking. Plus, it seems you're having fitment issues. In your case, I'd suggest swapping back to stock when you install the kit.
As for the other part of your question... The T-Netics kit relies on a re-flashed ECU for tuning. You therefore can't use a non-Rev-Up kit on a Rev-up car. You could get a tuner kit without the tuning and tune it yourself with either a UTEC of Hal-Tech. With this route, you'd still have to deal with making a new downpipe to go around the steering rack, if your car is an '06. The '06 rack is different than the earlier rack.
Attn asshats... this is the proper way to respond to a technical question. If you need any further tutoring on forum etiquette, PM me.
You're wrong on the header issue.
The turbonetics kit should not be run with aftermarket manifolds. Trying to install it with them will require putting a dent in the downpipe, reducing its efficiency, and will make both the headers and the manifolds contact the frame and/or each other. This will give you rough operation and most likely cause failure of the v-band clamps due to misalignment and evenutally exhaust leaks.
How do I know this? Because I was the first person to install this kit with headers, and eventually went back to stock manifolds after increased lag, rattles, and exhaust leaks. The factory manifolds have already proven to flow well enough for about 700whp. There is no upside to it.
As far as the 06 downpipe, yes, the difference is in how its routed around the steering rack. I wouldn't suggest buying a non-revup kit for a revup car because of this. The reason he was asking this question is obviously because he's wanting a used kit. The reflash is not included when someone buys a used kit so this doesn't matter anyway. He'll have to buy a tunable EMS.
And, as far as people being asshats, I'm sure most of them are sick of answering the same questions time and time again. People never seem to get it that headers don't work, and they will even go so far as to argue that they do just becuase they don't want to remove an old mod they wasted money on. It's not worth the time to argue, really. I'm personally getting a bit tired of trying to persuade people to install their stock manifolds. I'd almost rather them just try the aftermarket manifolds and live to regret it as I had.
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Thank you, I try to make it as plain and simple as I can without looking like a dip**** so I don't get the dumb responses, but people always feel the need to bash on other people b/c they think they know more.
Other than that the headers have been through a few track days where I had other exhaut parts fail, but the headers held up. As for the tune I knew I was going to have to get some sort of ems.
Also does tnetics actually make the adjustments nessary for an 06? Because on the site it has a separate packge for 05and06 but I talked to a kid who spoke to them and they just told him that the shop he was going to would MAKE it fit....
Other than that the headers have been through a few track days where I had other exhaut parts fail, but the headers held up. As for the tune I knew I was going to have to get some sort of ems.
Also does tnetics actually make the adjustments nessary for an 06? Because on the site it has a separate packge for 05and06 but I talked to a kid who spoke to them and they just told him that the shop he was going to would MAKE it fit....
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as for the headers taurran I'll swap them back, I didn't like the quality of them from the start, I have a friend anyway looking for a pair.
Sorry if I post threads that have already been answered, I'm just looking for the best and most accurate info, plus I'm brand new to tv turbo and car scene and don't wanna **** money away or live with headaches,
Sorry if I post threads that have already been answered, I'm just looking for the best and most accurate info, plus I'm brand new to tv turbo and car scene and don't wanna **** money away or live with headaches,
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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII
yeah the power stearing rack is a bit different.... you just need to do some modifications on the DP to get it to fit
I bought a used TN kid off a guy who had it on an 06'
the only thing he did was cut up the charge pipe to get it to fit.
(Thats the only modding done to any of the hot or cold piping.)
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Originally Posted by i8acobra
normally I'd suggest wrapping them in fiberglass header wrap to retain heat (heat spools the turbo, not exhaust velocity.