My VTR experience
05-06-2008, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysNBoost
thats funny john and i are boys since way back when he bought that shop from marcello with the s2000-
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05-06-2008, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysNBoost
wow congrats are you making no fcking sense,so what i broke a stock axle from a track edition z from 03 with more track and street races that u could ever imagine,at the track with slicks on-never seen that before just like you never heard of a boosted car blowing up with bigger turbos-listen kid you need to get a better understanding about boosted cars and 400hp + and street reliabilty-because from what i can read you have no clue-the game of boosted cars is unpredictable and anything can happen any real tuner will tell you that and from what it seems to me you wanted a boosted car with a lifetime bouncing off my rev limiter warranty-to me it sounds like you need a hug-oh yea and another thing vinny took my brembos off to clear the slicks big deal i have the old ones back on the car now-so what else can u dig up-make it interesting-dont be mad at me because u never saw the track, learn from youre mistakes and move on 
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... how can you run 465whp with stock injector? VTR should've let him know what are needed to run those power...... I see many car run the Greddy TT and even though those kit can get you to mid to high 500whp. I don't see other shop going above 400whp with that kit. VTR doesn't give their customer to many option besides what they carry which is not that many to begin with.... just my .02
05-06-2008, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway Riding
Best of luck to ya in the future ... I'm new to the Z game and now just learning about where to go and who to listen too. I'm sure these guys (mechanics) will be seeing a huge jump in Z's to be modified as all the lease returns come back and as they become more and more affordable so information really is priceless as well as learning from others mistakes is also priceless.(even if the mistake was not solely made on ur part which is the hardest part to deal with) again best of luck and hope all work with future mods..
appreciate that and good luck to you...i think you'll find that the most highly respected guys in the business don't have threads like this going around....my service to the Z community is telling the truth and it does get clouded when people stay away from the main points....
Why would VTR recommend an approach the manufacturers of the kit advised against?
How many other people that dealt with the shop have done a 700 kit on a stock motor?...most likely none.....everyone here is praising their work done using the 530 kit which is not in dispute by me or the manufacturer.
the debate started with claims of VTR brilliance/genius - what's genius about installing a JWT kit? the one part of my install that was not done by a junior guy in the shop and required thought and expertise was setting up the EMS to run the car+kit safely and that was screwed up royally....as other have pointed out....it should not have had that much power. Anyone who wishes to keep a good reputation does not have broken cars strewn in the streets...which is why JWT apparently hand picks only people who KNOW how to do things right...to install theirs..LOL
Again, thanks for reading and learning...and good luck with whoever you use...the story is good for any shop!
05-06-2008, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysNBoost
wow congrats are you making no fcking sense,so what i broke a stock axle from a track edition z from 03 with more track and street races that u could ever imagine,at the track with slicks on-never seen that before just like you never heard of a boosted car blowing up with bigger turbos-listen kid you need to get a better understanding about boosted cars and 400hp + and street reliabilty-because from what i can read you have no clue-the game of boosted cars is unpredictable and anything can happen any real tuner will tell you that and from what it seems to me you wanted a boosted car with a lifetime bouncing off my rev limiter warranty-to me it sounds like you need a hug-oh yea and another thing vinny took my brembos off to clear the slicks big deal i have the old ones back on the car now-so what else can u dig up-make it interesting-dont be mad at me because u never saw the track, learn from youre mistakes and move on ...
...First check your grammar...and wow what a rant....i must have hit a nerve!!!....at least you admit you broke your axle...to all forum members...I ask....how could i be lying?
kid ....no - adult with cash that Vinny figured out quickly. An adult willing to pay for expertise I didn't have myself....I shifted at 6k like Vinny advised me too.....never seen the redline ever....so was that good advice from him?? Unlike you breaking axles just to pay him again....i only wanted a good job done once that lasts longer than 3 weeks.
05-06-2008, 07:10 AM
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[I have a day job and really don't care much about VTR's business....only interest is in accurate history.[/QUOTE]
i was willing to not talk about it....you've now opened a whole different door.
Agreed, we don't need to discuss how the engine materialized for your car, but maybe you need to re-read your own post about an accurate history.
You don't paint a complete picture here, as you only give the complete negative aspect of your experience.
A shop that assists its customers in unfortunate situations such as this to get the customers car back on the road at minimal expense can't be that bad.
Bottom line- is the car back on the road and are you able to enjoy the new power of your daily driver?
i was willing to not talk about it....you've now opened a whole different door.
Agreed, we don't need to discuss how the engine materialized for your car, but maybe you need to re-read your own post about an accurate history.
You don't paint a complete picture here, as you only give the complete negative aspect of your experience.
A shop that assists its customers in unfortunate situations such as this to get the customers car back on the road at minimal expense can't be that bad.
Bottom line- is the car back on the road and are you able to enjoy the new power of your daily driver?
05-06-2008, 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by all yankees
[I have a day job and really don't care much about VTR's business....only interest is in accurate history.
Agreed, we don't need to discuss how the engine materialized for your car, but maybe you need to re-read your own post about an accurate history.
You don't paint a complete picture here, as you only give the complete negative aspect of your experience.
A shop that assists its customers in unfortunate situations such as this to get the customers car back on the road at minimal expense, is luxury that many of use would love to have available.
Bottom line- is the car back on the road and are you able to enjoy the new power of your daily driver?[/QUOTE]
Agreed on a few points here...I really don't think you and he or anyone wants to talk through how my car got back on the road....and you should not be fooled that it didn't cost me more money paid to him - where others did the work and absorbed costs...why did he need to get paid for the replacement stock motor? especially after agreeing that he should have known better after things went wrong. the appropriate fix was that since we were both at fault...his advice + i knew FI on stock was risky at any level - should have been 50/50. Remember - his motivation to get the car fixed back to stock was because he thought i was going to pay him the $2600 to re-install the kit....and tune it down to a safe 6 psi....frankly what should have been done the first time...for a genius.
Thanks for having a reasonable response rather than the normal fanboy nonsense....
05-06-2008, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by athenG
Ok, we all know he's a noob in FI and that is why he went to a reputable shop to guide him!! Now it is VTR's responsibility to give him all the supporting mods to run that setup. It is not his job to tell Vinny what to put in there. I don't think other reputable shop will ever put a stock JWT with an upgrade turbo without upgrading the fuel and de-tuning the car how can you run 465whp with stock injector? VTR should've let him know what are needed to run those power...... I see many car run the Greddy TT and even though those kit can get you to mid to high 500whp. I don't see other shop going above 400whp with that kit. VTR doesn't give their customer to many option besides what they carry which is not that many to begin with.... just my .02
how can you run 465whp with stock injector? VTR should've let him know what are needed to run those power...... I see many car run the Greddy TT and even though those kit can get you to mid to high 500whp. I don't see other shop going above 400whp with that kit. VTR doesn't give their customer to many option besides what they carry which is not that many to begin with.... just my .02Exacta mundo....where is the explanation on this....??? When a doctor prescribes medicine...should i trust it or go to med school and learn for myself??? don't you pay for their knowledge and expertise?
05-06-2008, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by jadenz350
First check your grammar...and wow what a rant....i must have hit a nerve!!!....at least you admit you broke your axle...to all forum members...I ask....how could i be lying?
kid ....no - adult with cash that Vinny figured out quickly. An adult willing to pay for expertise I didn't have myself....I shifted at 6k like Vinny advised me too.....never seen the redline ever....so was that good advice from him?? Unlike you breaking axles just to pay him again....i only wanted a good job done once that lasts longer than 3 weeks.
kid ....no - adult with cash that Vinny figured out quickly. An adult willing to pay for expertise I didn't have myself....I shifted at 6k like Vinny advised me too.....never seen the redline ever....so was that good advice from him?? Unlike you breaking axles just to pay him again....i only wanted a good job done once that lasts longer than 3 weeks.
05-06-2008, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway Riding
If u remember Claudio had a boosted Z way back with no tune.. i wonder if that thing is still kicking. lol
05-06-2008, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jadenz350
Exacta mundo....where is the explanation on this....??? When a doctor prescribes medicine...should i trust it or go to med school and learn for myself??? don't you pay for their knowledge and expertise?
05-06-2008, 07:42 AM
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good man....just wished he would have offered to tune mine since that was the simple adjustment to make....
let's bury the hatchet between us...i don't know u and you don't know me and we already don't like each other because of somebody elses problem you wanted to defend....
to start our new found friendship....since you're so much more experienced than me I would be forever grateful if you could give me your opinion on why Vinny would recommend such a bad set up...to a noob?
sincerely....
let's bury the hatchet between us...i don't know u and you don't know me and we already don't like each other because of somebody elses problem you wanted to defend....
to start our new found friendship....since you're so much more experienced than me I would be forever grateful if you could give me your opinion on why Vinny would recommend such a bad set up...to a noob?
sincerely....
05-06-2008, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysNBoost
and another thing jaden you should be nicer to people when you drop car off and less demanding-are you use to crying and getting what u want-seems like it to me
so are you implying that he didn't tune it down because I wasn't nice to a guy that took three times longer to do the job he swore was a cakewalk.....therefore....the engine blew and he got his revenge? when people pay big money for a job and agree a timeline...sorry but I DO have the right to demand people make good on what they promise. So do you....and anybody else who is a paying customer...thats how business works....fanboys like you can learn from guys like me....don't be ignorant..just trying to help.
BTW...you sound like Vinny with these posts...something he would say as he tries to stay away from answering simple questions....lets focus on his genius advice for a minute.....what are your thoughts there ....you don't seem to have an answer.
05-06-2008, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by joe~075
jadenz,
you also blew your transmission a week or two earlier how is that holding up.
you also blew your transmission a week or two earlier how is that holding up.
05-06-2008, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysNBoost
yea that would be funny but i doubt it-its funny you said that i think i know who you are now do you have a black z that you where getting a intake plenum installed while i was fixing my friends cobra rear on the lift inside the shop
05-06-2008, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by jadenz350
good man....just wished he would have offered to tune mine since that was the simple adjustment to make....
let's bury the hatchet between us...i don't know u and you don't know me and we already don't like each other because of somebody elses problem you wanted to defend....
to start our new found friendship....since you're so much more experienced than me I would be forever grateful if you could give me your opinion on why Vinny would recommend such a bad set up...to a noob?
sincerely....
let's bury the hatchet between us...i don't know u and you don't know me and we already don't like each other because of somebody elses problem you wanted to defend....
to start our new found friendship....since you're so much more experienced than me I would be forever grateful if you could give me your opinion on why Vinny would recommend such a bad set up...to a noob?
sincerely....
05-06-2008, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Highway Riding
thats me brutha.. lol small *** world
