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Old May 13, 2008 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by medstudent25
I was looking for a reliable 400 - 500 hp. One were I could beat on the car as I do now without having to worry!! Greedy sounds like a good kit, but don't want to have the crossbar cut out
If your only looking for 400-500whp I wouldn't get to crazy with the motor. Choose your kit of choice Greddy Twins, JWT, APS, Powerlab ST, etc..... and I would just do pistons and rods, and call it a day. You can get crazy with cams and meth kit, and all that good stuff, but for what your looking for you don't need to get crazy. You can probably do everything at once! IMO.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by SlideFox
If your only looking for 400-500whp I wouldn't get to crazy with the motor. Choose your kit of choice Greddy Twins, JWT, APS, Powerlab ST, etc..... and I would just do pistons and rods, and call it a day. You can get crazy with cams and meth kit, and all that good stuff, but for what your looking for you don't need to get crazy. You can probably do everything at once! IMO.
For no more than 500rwhp, pistons and rods would suffice on some spirited driving? Thats my goal as well (i have a G sedan, so i wouldn't be able to fit bigger tires in the back to help w/ traction). I was under the impression that you'd want to have pistons/rods, better radiator, and W/M injection to give you a reliable 500rwhp that you can beat upon?

To the OP:
if you can honestly live w/ a stock block TT kit, i'd say go for that initially, and pickup a used short-block to build on the side. But if you have the financial means to, go for the all-out build in one shot.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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thanks for all the input guys!!
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Old May 14, 2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by captj3
Go for the TT set up first. Keep the power level at 400 rwhp 8-9 psi and a good tune, don't beat it to death and it will last. My car is a 03 with 62k on it with 31k boosted and still running strong with stock internals.

K.. What is that exact definition of "Don't Beat it to death"? I'm stock now, but when I push.. I take it to at least 6900 (Rev up) a couple times a day. If I'm having fun.. maybe ohh 15 times. I don't abuse.. I just drive the car like it's meant to be driven. I can't do this with a TT setup 360-370whp??
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Old May 14, 2008 | 10:34 PM
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Old May 15, 2008 | 12:44 AM
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400whp is more than plenty!! don't be greedy!!
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Old May 15, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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Build or blow
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Old May 15, 2008 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by superchargedg
Bryce has no end goal.
This is true
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Old May 15, 2008 | 10:40 AM
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Not one of the choices you listed, but if can't afford to build the engine try out a supercharger instead.
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Old May 15, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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Boost it now, if you think about it too long, you'll realize its way more expensive than any budget you come up with...
I boosted my stock block, but I have an extra one on the side im building
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Old May 15, 2008 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Cadre
Not one of the choices you listed, but if can't afford to build the engine try out a supercharger instead.
DO NOT do that, waste of money. Bought a brand new vortech and sold it in 3 months
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pun1sh3RZ
Build or blow
Not always true

OP, I would suggest doing the following list:

-Pistons
-Rods
-ARP L19's
-Cams (BC Stage 1's or comparable 264 cam)
-Radiator
-Nismo T-Stat
-Whichever Turbo Kit you want to go with
-Standalone EMS

With the above items 400-450 DD and roughly 550-600 on high boost should be no problem (Numbers will depend on the kit you choose to go with).
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:06 PM
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That is a build..

edit: I'm not telling OP to go sleeved (I didn't) just do the build you posted which is really close to what I did minus the cams I left my stock rev-up cams in
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Originally Posted by Pun1sh3RZ
DO NOT do that, waste of money. Bought a brand new vortech and sold it in 3 months
I bought my Vortech, and returned before installation, i got my Procharger and sold it after 3 weeks of driving, now im installing a hks in progress.....siiigh what a head ache
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by G35Rider92649
I bought my Vortech, and returned before installation, i got my Procharger and sold it after 3 weeks of driving, now im installing a hks in progress.....siiigh what a head ache
Read my Sig... That is all
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by G35Rider92649
I bought my Vortech, and returned before installation, i got my Procharger and sold it after 3 weeks of driving, now im installing a hks in progress.....siiigh what a head ache
Sounds like you are in need of... TWINS
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Old May 15, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Bought a ST and sold it, stayed NA then bought a reliable JWT 530 and plan on installing it on 9psi and just haning out with that, No more power needed, as this is just a fun toy.
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i say install the TT kit on ur stock block , run 9 psi of boost with a good tune.
In case ur not satisfied, go with forged internals !
thats what im goin to do pretty soon ( APS TT )
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Old May 16, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by zerosec
i say install the TT kit on ur stock block , run 9 psi of boost with a good tune.
In case ur not satisfied, go with forged internals !
thats what im goin to do pretty soon ( APS TT )
Yea, but I am under the understanding that, with 9psi you cant beat on it, on a regular basis.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by medstudent25
Yea, but I am under the understanding that, with 9psi you cant beat on it, on a regular basis.
Thats why you have 2 different maps.....one at 6psi and the other at 9psi.
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