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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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I am so depressed that I even wasted this much time talking to you.

Sure buddy! You win! Have a nice day!
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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let me correct you AGAIN
The soft limit is designed to reduce power to smooth the transition to the hard limit
its funny you mention people picking and choosing what parts to implement yet your the one doing so. the above is the ONLY definition of a soft limit, there are different methods, because YOU choose to only use certain ones dosnt mean the others dont exist that just shows your delusional and continuing to show why your havnt a clue what your doing. your taking a SPECIFIC type that LINKS uses(which DOSNT EVEN APPLY TO FUEL) and trying to use that for all systems even though i already provided you several systems that contradict that.

keep writing the check a wrench is not what belongs in your hand.
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Alright since you're obviously mentally challenged I will lay it out for you, just as your own link you didn't read does. A soft cut alternates between cylinders, and it can skip every other, every other 2, or however it is programmed. But while its cutting, it's a full cut to that cylinder for that cycle. Hard cut is all cylinders cut.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:12 PM
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only depressed because you cant win a arguement you started out wrong in.
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I am so depressed that I even wasted this much time talking to you.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:19 PM
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No you're completely wrong. You're just not capable of understanding either due to stubbornness or poor understanding. Not my problem. Nobodies engines is going to get hurt here just because you're afraid of fuel cut... So this is a win win even if you can't keep up.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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come out to hawaii and line your Z up then $3000 buy in ill gladly take your money

ill even be generous and let you know theres no e85 out here so tune for 92, hope you can push a couple hundred more hp from 92 octane if you think i cant keep up.

your the only one here who is completely wrong, brb im gona go "cut" my soup down the drain, or cut my steak into the trash since apparently thats the proper usage and all the people across the world who refer to "cutting fuel out of the tune", "cutting advance out of the ignition" "cutting the volume down" "cutting food into pieces" are apparently completely wrong because phunk says his definition is more correct then the dictionary.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Ohhh I didn't realize that you're so far away. Now I can see why you're such a tough guy. Ah, it all makes sense.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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be back in ohio in feb/march time frame, summit motorsports parkway then this coming summer. dont back out now if you think your so awesome price stays the same

of course all the little check books back out when i offer though.
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Ohhh I didn't realize that you're so far away. Now I can see why you're such a tough guy. Ah, it all makes sense.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:44 PM
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Ok tough guy sounds good.

Check book? Sorry I probably paid less for every mod on this car than you have invested in your wheels and tires.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:53 PM
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check book paying someone to do all your **** for you.

you only have $1550 invested in your entire car? oh yes please do tell some more ********.
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Ok tough guy sounds good.

Check book? Sorry I probably paid less for every mod on this car than you have invested in your wheels and tires.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:55 PM
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no you finally won something... I definitely have over 1500$ in mods.

No reason to derail the thread. Back on topic .. Jerry is wrong about most things. So don't worry about damage from fuel cut. Fuel cut isn't a lean burn, it completely skips injection phases to prevent that. So that nobody has to take MY word, or Jerry's word for it... I went ahead and sent an email over to AEM to get the truth. I will post back as soon as I get the reply. Here is what I sent:

"Are there any forms of "fuel cut" in your EMS that will actually reduce pulsewidth rather than skip complete injection phases?

I had no concerns about it... but Jerry D in Oahu, Hawaii is *extremely* adamant that some of your fuel cut methods will lean burn the engine and cause damage.

Can you please clarify for me? Thank you very much for your time!"

We shall see! To cover all bases, since Jerry is so extremely persistent about it, I will go ahead and forward this email to TurboXS and to Haltech as well.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 07:59 PM
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:16 PM
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:39 PM
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hey look at that dont even need to wait for them to repond heres a example for you directly from the infinity software. decel cut table it shows your wrong that cut dosnt mean "off" as well as you adjust it to suit your needs.

funny you went to AEM when dealing with the UTEC, does that mean it probably has something similar and your trying to hide it? probably. too bad ive been dealing quite closely with them lately.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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oh delete all your messages? did sam or someone email you back already with how wrong you are?

how about you email GM while your at it(or bosche since they made the ecus) and ask them how the 80's ecus handled fuel cut for the rev limiters, or mazda who still does the same?

its a option that is out there which AGAIN is why i said not to use such option just because you dont have a ecu that does it or you choose not to use them dosnt mean they arnt there.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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and thats not even counting if the injectors where completely cut that the engine would die on decel...........
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:48 PM
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i didnt deleted the messages, i moved them all into one post.

trust me, we need to wait for their answer... because youre posting nonsense.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jerryd87
and thats not even counting if the injectors where completely cut that the engine would die on decel...........
decel fuel cut completely skips injection phases, like all fuel cuts. the reason the engine doesnt die is because the fuel cut is disengaged appropriately. There is no lean burn in a fuel cut.

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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:57 PM
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you just dont give up i even posted you a screen shot and you still choose to ignore it, typical i bet we mysteriously only hear from a single person too from one of the companys randomly that no one has every heard of eh your so good at being wrong =/
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decel fuel cut completely skips injection phases, like all fuel cuts. the reason the engine doesnt die is because the fuel cut is disengaged appropriately. There is no lean burn in a fuel cut.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 08:58 PM
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the screen shot is great and all. but it doesnt help you if you dont know what youre looking at. i will post the replies for you, dont worry. it will be my pleasure. I will include the return addresss to you in PM if you would like to argue with them about their system further.
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Old Oct 23, 2013 | 09:00 PM
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so in other words it since it shows your wrong its automatically wrong right?

pretty simple to understand one axis is engine rpm, one axis is engine deceleration rate and the cells are fuel cut percentage.............

im quite familar with the system me and meatbag are the only two who have it for the vq35.

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the screen shot is great and all. but it doesnt help you if you dont know what youre looking at.

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