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Old 06-06-2008 | 06:32 PM
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stock innards, yes. Julian pulled the 385 right in front of me too....just amazing. The coolest part was watching the extra air blow out the BOV in a 3 foot white plume....BAMF

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One thing we noticed immidiately is the lower AIT temps, around 32-35 average during and after a dyno pull.VERY efficient turbo and kit..At only the WG pressure of 6psi we yeilded 385 whp DJ, 335 DD...

What also impressed me the most was the flat TQ curve..From 3500 right till 6000rpms it almost holds FLAT ACROSS!!
its amazing what larger piping and a properly diverted wastegate will do. the turbo is a carbon copy of the aps turbo, housing and all, i really like the way they run the wastegate gases. this IS a very nice kit.

im always worried about the locations of these turbos tho. on my last 240, i used a "real" gt35r, and that SOB got hot as hell, it was much farther away from any parts than in the Z, but it actually melted my brake booster reservoir, and it was 6 inches away. it did help 100% when i wrapped the downpipe, but the housing still would glow under long hard runs, BUT mine used short runners and the turbo was only 4 inches from the head but still, im always leary about having that turbo near all those essential parts.

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Old 06-06-2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Julian@MRC
We completed the Dyno tune and off to the road tune tommorow AM and some temp correction adjustments....

One thing we noticed immidiately is the lower AIT temps, around 32-35 average during and after a dyno pull.VERY efficient turbo and kit..At only the WG pressure of 6psi we yeilded 385 whp DJ, 335 DD...

What also impressed me the most was the flat TQ curve..From 3500 right till 6000rpms it almost holds FLAT ACROSS!!

Very nicely done kit!!
Ill post the graph tommorow, Im dead tired and at home now..
That's one hell of a difference from my dyno,



8.5 PSI

I guess it's true Daves dyno always reads low.
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Jeffie, if you have DD 373 hpr at 8.5 lbs this would correspond to my 335 DD


EDIT: I retract what i said....I have no clue about dyno comparison so I'll be quiet...haha

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Old 06-06-2008 | 07:29 PM
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Congrats Again!! Your gonna love your new found power... just remember what you and I talked about for the future!!!
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Nice write up OP. I do like the piping too.
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Originally Posted by tig488
the turbo is a carbon copy of the aps turbo, housing and all,

actually its the other way around....

aps st uses a bastarized version of the gt35r thats is highly inneficient as you raise the psi..the housing provided with the aps st turbo sucks.

The PL kit uses a true garrett gt35r turbo
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Originally Posted by UMW350Z
Jeffie, if you have DD 373 hpr at 8.5 lbs this would correspond to my 335 DD


EDIT: I retract what i said....I have no clue about dyno comparison so I'll be quiet...haha
Well if you made 335 on a DD and Jeffie made 373 on a DD, essentially that would put Jeffie @ roughly 420 on a DJ, but that is complete speculation. The only way to know would be if jeffie dyno'd his car on a DJ @ 8.5 psi

Again Congratulations on your car!!! Also, Congratulation's to Julian and MRC for another solid car!!
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Originally Posted by jeffie7
That's one hell of a difference from my dyno,



8.5 PSI

I guess it's true Daves dyno always reads low.

you are probably running DD numbers and not DJ corrected




you car is more powerful than you think

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Originally Posted by IIQuickSilverII

actually its the other way around....

aps st uses a bastarized version of the gt35r thats is highly inneficient as you raise the psi..the housing provided with the aps st turbo sucks.

The PL kit uses a true garrett gt35r turbo
the aps used a E housing, so does that turbo, i asked about it when they first released it. a "true" gt35r uses an S cover, the larger .70AR, this housing aps and PL uses is a small E housing, which is something like a .50AR. pretty much the same turbo, actually, i think the aps turbine housing is bigger.

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Looks like I may loose my CF engine cover unless I become one with the dremel tool. I don't know if I want to tear it up especially if i might ruin it...hmmmmmm
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The Powerlab kit comes with a .82 A/R housing... sorry
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Originally Posted by SlideFox
The Powerlab kit comes with a .82 A/R housing... sorry
so does the APS kit, sorry.

but it was internally WG'd so it sucked *****.
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actually its the other way around....

aps st uses a bastarized version of the gt35r thats is highly inneficient as you raise the psi..the housing provided with the aps st turbo sucks.

The PL kit uses a true garrett gt35r turbo
the aps used a B housing, so does that turbo, i asked about it when they first released it. a "true" gt35r uses an S cover, the larger .70AR, this housing aps and PL uses is a small B housing, which is something like a .50AR. pretty much the same turbo, actually, i think the aps turbine housing is bigger.
well THe PL kit doesnt use a .70ar it uses a Garrett GT35R Dual Ball Bearing Turbo with .82 A/R Turbine, ... i would like for you to try to get the stock aps st turbo to flow past 500whp....
feel free to talk to gtm about it... they've been working on that damm turbo for dons setup to get it to flow to the desred levels the customer wants ....about 520-550

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Originally Posted by tig488
so does the APS kit, sorry.
So then you are contradicting your own statment?
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I think Julian may be able to squeeze 400 DJ without raising the boost....time will tell. I am curious to see his roa tuning impressions.....nothing can substitute realtime driving data
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Originally Posted by UMW350Z
I think Julian may be able to squeeze 400 DJ without raising the boost....time will tell. I am curious to see his roa tuning impressions.....nothing can substitute realtime driving data
Are you picking her up tomorrow?
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Originally Posted by UMW350Z
I think Julian may be able to squeeze 400 DJ without raising the boost....time will tell. I am curious to see his roa tuning impressions.....nothing can substitute realtime driving data
So when do I get a ride, Joe?
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Originally Posted by SlideFox
So then you are contradicting your own statment?

no i said i think, ive never seen the PL in person. but the APS was a .82 but internally wastegated.

if you remove the PL turbo and put the APS turbo in its place, the results would be close, aps used small piping, PL doesnt, aps used that crappy internal design and horrible downpipe, PL doesnt. thats the big difference. i didnt want it to go this route, i just stated the turbos were very similar.

quicksilver---->.70AR comp housing/ .82 turbine housing.
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So when do I get a ride, Joe?

When you learn to love carbon fiber body parts in all thier ricey glory!




I keed! Next time we meet up...we will do a central jersey meet soon. I just need my car back first!!!!


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