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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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So I got my new tires installed today. Robert from RSSpeedlabs has been begging me to dyno my car, but I've always said "No" b/c I didn't want to pay for something that I already knew plus most people around here have no idea how much HP I'm really pushing & I like it that way. He told me today he'd wouldn't charge me if he could film it to put on they're website so I said ok.

1st here's the pull on Jeremy's dyno @ PF


Here it is on a Mustang Dyno letting off @ 6000rpm


And again letting off @ 6300rpm


34 less whp, but a 49wtq gain??? I'm no complaining, just thought it was kinda odd.


Here's the video they took of me for they're site.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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I can see where the flux capacitor kicked in at 3400 rpms.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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Jeremy's dyno went to almost 7,000 rpm

The other went to only 6,000 rpm.

If he took it to 6,900 or so like Jeremy, it would have been a better comparison.

Thats the only thing I can think of to explain the lower HP reading, I could be wrong.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:27 PM
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LOL, I was wondering what that was. I thought when I got out of the car it was earlier than when I got there.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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is it wrong for me to say generally, mustang dyno ftl?
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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eh, this is why I don't like mustang dynos.

Dyno Jet, Dyno Dynamics, or Dyna Pak only please
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Robert is a great guy, but all he can do is rave about how the Mustang Dyno is the best dyno for tunning and gives the truest numbers. I just don't get how my graph was all over the place like that!?!
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Actually, for tuning purposes, a Dyna Pak is the best dyno, for numbers a Dyno Jet.

I am sure he is a great guy, no doubt about that - he is just wrong on this particular subject.

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I don't want to start a argument about different dyno's. Could you tell me why you think that? He stays that with the MD's being able to simulate real world driving it's better for a true tune. I'm guessing he just thinks that it's the best for numbers because of the same thing. Just trying to learn as much as my little brain can handle.
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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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It is what it is . A Mustang dyno [ when set up to read true ] will read 10 to 12 % lower than a Dynojet dyno

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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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Americans like there dynos reading 'calculated flywheel hp'. Thats the explanation dyno dynamics gave me when i quizzed them on how come the americans make more power then our identical setups. Come to australia and u will see the real heartbrakes in action. rwkW
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 12:29 AM
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well all dynos are calibrated....so there are differences with that even between two diff dynojets....mustang...whateva...

also mustang dyno's use load differently..so the numbers usially are lower than dynojets..so the guy saying its better for tuning..is right depending on its calibrations....


basically its like this..supra guys never go to mustang dyno's...cuz they care more about the number on the printout than their actual performance.....what kinda guy are u??
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Originally Posted by Faboo
well all dynos are calibrated....so there are differences with that even between two diff dynojets....mustang...whateva...

also mustang dyno's use load differently..so the numbers usially are lower than dynojets..so the guy saying its better for tuning..is right depending on its calibrations....


basically its like this..supra guys never go to mustang dyno's...cuz they care more about the number on the printout than their actual performance.....what kinda guy are u??

+1


Load based dynos are better for tunning the car, inertia based dynos (dyno jet) are better for do doing head to head comparison since that is what everyone uses.
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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by gsxrjohn
I don't want to start a argument about different dyno's. Could you tell me why you think that? He stays that with the MD's being able to simulate real world driving it's better for a true tune. I'm guessing he just thinks that it's the best for numbers because of the same thing. Just trying to learn as much as my little brain can handle.

Too late !!!
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Originally Posted by chris'smax
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Load based dynos are better for tunning the car, inertia based dynos (dyno jet) are better for do doing head to head comparison since that is what everyone uses.
+1
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Originally Posted by chris'smax
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Load based dynos are better for tunning the car, inertia based dynos (dyno jet) are better for do doing head to head comparison since that is what everyone uses.

Thats basically what I said in my earlier post
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Originally Posted by George@GTM
Thats basically what I said in my earlier post

But i don't like you so i don't read your post









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Old Aug 19, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by chris'smax
But i don't like you so i don't read your post









i keed i keed
lol - No worries, you know that 70% of what people say when they are joking they really mean though right?

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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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....were the runs on the MD done with the ignition probe??...or were they using the roller speed for RPM?...

....i have seen results consistant with your experience on our dyno vs. dynojets....we have a MD also....readings are very conservative on the Mustangs...but ive always prefered it that way....then when you take the car to any other dyno it will produce better numbers...
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Old Aug 20, 2008 | 12:11 PM
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They plugged something into my OBD plug, but that's it I think. I wasn't really talking about the numbers so much. I figured my hp would be around 380-390. It's the big jump in torque and the messed up graph that really confused me.
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