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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 04:55 PM
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Just wanted to post a BIG thanks to Sam at GTM for working with me via long distance to help me upgrade my ems to the Fcon. In addition to the Fcon I also installed the Knock amp with dual AF sensors, intake air temp. sensor, pressure sensor and all the harnesses plus we re flashed my ecu.

All I can say is WOW, the car runs like a dream and even though it was a lot of money the car runs amazing and I am very happy. Sam was really patient and stayed true to his word in helping me trouble shoot any problems and get the car running like it should.

The Fcon was sent to me pre tuned and they modified the Fcon harness to make installation of the Knock amp all plug and play, in addition he sent me detailed directions to wire in my Aquamist HFS-5 water meth kit to the Fcon also.

I tell you all this because working together with Sam gave me a great alternative to the usual trailer the car 10-12 hours away, plus by not having the expense of travel exc. I felt like I could invest more into the equipment instead.

I hope to get it on the dyno soon, I'd be interested to see if I gained or lost a few ponies, my most resent dyno with the Utec was around 411hp and 330 tq, my guess by the way she runs is that even with out a dyno tune it will do better.

So long story short, I just thought if there were others out there with the same issues of distance and time constraints that this might also be a viable option, so far it appears to be working out very well.

Lastly I wasn't very happy with just sticking my Knock amp display or navigator on the dash so I took out the center cubby and made my own custom insert to hold the displays which took some time but I like the way it worked out.


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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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nice upgrade! What are the specs in your car? if you don't mind me asking
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Old Sep 20, 2008 | 11:35 PM
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If they just loaded a tune on there already from a different car, how are you going to fine tune it to your car? What happens if you add/remove some parts how will you tune it? You gonna pull the FCON out and ship it back?
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Old Sep 21, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ZthirtyThr33
nice upgrade! What are the specs in your car? if you don't mind me asking
I first started down the road of just bolt ons and then went to far to do twins with out losing alot of what I'd done already, so I have a Vortech, 2.87 pulley, DW 650 inj, return fuel line, fuel pump, headers, hf cats, HKS exhaust, JWT clutch & flywheel, Aquamist W/M, Mrev 2, spacer, ortho pulleys, 3.9 gears, quaife, just about everything but cams for a Vortech set up you can buy.

As far as a retune don't think I'll ever need to. Even though there is no limit to what I can buy for the car I think I'm done with hp performance for a while. And if that changes maybe I'll take a vacation and go see Sam in sunny California.

Now that its running so well I think I'll just enjoy it. Besides I get my nut off working on my buddy's Pro Mod race team, his car has almost as much hp in one cylinder as does all six of mine LOL. Heres a link http://www.superchevyshow.com/driver...tevebruce.html
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:24 AM
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so you basically went from a custom tune on your utec to a generic tune on the FCON and felt that was a good upgrade?

interesting.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 07:30 AM
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so you basically went from a custom tune on your utec to a generic tune on the FCON and felt that was a good upgrade?

interesting.

I think fine tuning would be needed. If it isn't locked (the FCON), I would definately get it fine tuned.

Eh, if you are happy with the tune, then so be it, but I just couldn't justify spending 3k+ on ems and not have it custom tuned
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Well I'm not sure how generic the tune is, according to Sam he has hundreds of recorded tunes many with the same set up as me. Yes there are slight differences between cars but with the compensation maps in place the Fcon as I understand will make slight adjustments to compensate for any slight differences. I drove the car around for a few days and data was stored on the Fcon in which I pulled back out and sent to Sam so he could make final adjustments to the base map. So it's been tweaked to some degree for my car.

I'll just have to get it dyno'd in order to do a true before and after comparison. All I know is the car runs better and smoother then it ever has since go FI, so that being said it was worth it to me.

I guess it's not anymore difficult to justify then spending 3k + for bolt on parts that give you an extra 20hp. Been there done that.

At least with this there is a SIGNIFICANT difference in the way the car runs.

I'm not suggesting that this is the best way to go, but it is an option for people like me who just don't have the time to drag there car half way across the country to get a tune.
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Kansas is less than 4 hours from Forged, lol.

It sounds like a great alternative to me, I'm on your side. I just spent the same money for the FCON .

Can't wait to see the dynos. Throw us a video
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Originally Posted by craigo'sznprgrs
Kansas is less than 4 hours from Forged, lol.


825 miles 12 hrs according to map quest LOL

I'll try to get to the dyno soon, I'm very curious myself.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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For some reason, I had a brain fart, I was thinking Kentucky, my bad.

I was thinking I was just in Bowling Green and it only took me 3 hours from my house to get there.
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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i got f con for sale with everything sam would sell u guys for 1500 bucks
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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 09:53 PM
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Tinman where in Kansas are you? Ill be at Ft riley in 3 months.
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Old Sep 23, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Tinman where in Kansas are you? Ill be at Ft riley in 3 months.
I'm in Lawrence, maybe an hour or so east of Fort Riley, lucky you get here just in time for winter.
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