Hey guys,

Just finished my Greddt tt kit, and i want to put a crash bar back in. Any body have photos or links to ones they did. I've found a few on here but not many, point in the right direction if you know. Thanks guys

 

Are you talking about the aluminum bumper? I wasn't aware that you could put that back on once the intercooler was installed. I don't have a Greddy kit though, just what I have heard.

 

crash bar is a waste

 

i kno its a waste, but god forbid something happens, i want to make sure insurance covers me, no crash bar= no insurance in state of new york

I know i cant put it back on, thats why im looking to find out who has them, or the best way to put it on, fabrications that people have done. Trust me if it wasnt about insurance i would say screw it, but i cannot do that so looking to figure something out.

 

i know of someone who did it, but there was a lot of cutting needed to get it to fit

think XKR had one made to fit, maybe it was a one of a kind

 

search member ktaylor

 

Even if you make a modified version your insurance company may still argue its not a factory bumper and has not been crash tested and approved.

 

it just needs to meet the frame impact points and have the same strength or greater to be approved.... so if i use a steel fabricated crash with tubular framing im set, but i dont know how i would make this work, thats what the insurance co. said to me for it to remain covered

 

Why don't you just tell them you have??
I don't know what insurance you have, but when i got the insurance in Long island NY, they asked me to go gas station next to them so they can inspect the car. They really didn't look anything, check the CEL light, look around body and asked me if i have a alaram system. Well, i was good to go.

I wouldn't really worry about that.

chefj

 

like was said, even if you had one made, no one would ever DOT rate it as a crash bar, esp your insurance company in today's economy.

any shop that makes roll cages can easily fab you up a tubular bumper brace.

 

I would think the insurance company would raise a stink about the forced induction first if you tried to file a claim. Is the Greddy kit legal in NY? They would argue about the increased liability to them and that you weren't paying the premium for it.

 

another option would be replace the intercooler with something smaller. i know the aps intercooler is very good quality but might take some tweaking or get a custom one. it would be expensive but honestly i would feel weird driving around without the crash bar, ive been in a few accidents and am lucky i wasnt injured

 

I think OP has greddy kit..

chefj

 

I dont think the crash bar does anything in high speed impacts, only in crashes 5mph or less

 

When i do my greddy kit which will be in a couple of months, im gonna make my own support beam. Cant wait

 

In order for the stock bumper to work, you would essentially have to remove so much material from it to get around the intercooler that if your insurance checked it out, they would disqualify it anyway. And as has been stated, a fabricated alternate bumper would not serve to benefit you at all anyway, as it cannot be tested or proved in its ability to protect the vehicle or you.
Bottom line... Don't go with the greddy kit if you want to keep your front bumper!!
If you already have the greddy kit, and you notified your insurance company you have it (which is a dumb thing to do) it will be un-insurable in NY. Good Luck.

 

Sharif w/ Forged made a custom front guard for a customer but it was not designed for crash resistance, it was designed to make the front end more rigid...same principle as the Strut bar under the hood. I'll post if I can find that thread.

 

It wasn't the crash bar that saved you. It was primarily your seat belts and airbags. Accordnig the NHTSA, a car's bumper is only good for maybe 5 MPH and is only for minimizing body damage due to LOW SPEED impacts. The car is designed to "crumple" for anything faster.

Read about bumpers here:

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/proble...per/Index.html

OP ... You're bar/plate intercooler is actually stonger against bending than the factory impact beam.

 

I´m getting a custom build intercooler. Think that´s the best way to solve that problem!

 

Believe me, if you wreck your modified F/I Z the crash bar is the least of your issues. The insurance will only cover damage to the stock pieces and will jack your rates once they see the F/I kit. I have done a lot of research on this in the past few months.

+1 on the intercooler providing appx as much crash resistance as the aluminum crash bar would. If the crash bar meant something to you, you should have gotten an APS TT kit.