Ouch!!!! I guess I withdraw my offer!

 

Just imagine if they made automotive fire supression systems...

"We need to set you engine bay on fire to test the reaction time of the new Halon fire suppression system. The fire should be extinguished almost immediately. And the bonus is that we'll sell you the used kit at the cost of a new kit and not charge you for the time it took us to set your car on fire!"

WOW, what a deal. I don't doubt that they do quality work but sometimes I get a little ticked that vendors seem to use this board for their market research. Vic should have required him to be a paying sponsor before he is allowed to post this.

We need to get a no solicitors sign and put in the window.

 

What ignorant comment, "just like the spec v we blew up." Thats thrown aroudn so lightly isn't it. Do you know why it blew up?

No it wasn't due to bad tuning, or unexperienced tuners or installers etc. It was simply too much power for the car to handle. The cause of the motor was "Catastrophic Rod Failure" meaning the rod snapped in half from too much power, would you like the pictures? I have pictures of all 4 pistons as well and there is no signs of detonation on them. Every motors different and every breaking point will be different, when your pioneering in something there is a chance stuff will break its part of the performance process.

Would you rather be boosting your car in the dark without knowing any limits or would you be glad that someone actually tested the car to stock limits and can sell you a kit that is safe because THEY know that it won't blow up?

Do you think all the years other turbo specialists have been customizing kits for cars in the past have never blown a motor, due to a weak motor design?

 

Interesting comment from someone who hasn't tested the limits of our engine yet.

I would love for you guys to go forward with this project, the more the merrier. Good luck in finding someone to loan you their car. Personally, this is my daily driver, and there is noway I would ever even consider it. Heck, to bring it home, someone would be paying two car payments on a car that they barely see.

For the right price, I am sure you will find someone who will do it. To me, it is kinda like a custom setup, except you guys are talking a lot longer time to have the car in order to allow for mass production. That still is a long, long time though.

 

Actually we are working on numerous 3.5s right now. Altima / Maxima
And we also have years of expierence with the VQ30DE which is not to much different besides the fact its not an open deck block.

 

OK, all we have talked about is the test mule. What about the production kit?? What is the price range on that?? And any idea when that will be available??

 

It depends on what components we use on the kit, for example we might get the car and decide we want to run twin internal wastegates, or vice versa. But Im guessing roughly 6000$, it will be complete with an entirely new fuel system, (Management, injectors, lines) twin turbos polished, twin wastegates, twin SS304 polished manifolds, Twin ss304 downpipes polished, twin HKS SSQVs with polished aluminum intercooler piping.

You guys will be pleased to see this kit. and there will be options on this one for those that are just looking for the performance aspect of a turbo system.

But i know if i had a 350z i'd want it all to be polished and top-notch, but thats just me though .

 

Polished means nothing to me if the numbers arn't right, imo, hope it works out for you guys good luck. More turbo kits mean cheaper price for me

 

Well, I certainly hope this thing goes into production. The more choices, the better.

 

BTW, if you can stick to 6K or LOWER, you will be hearing from some of us, lol. Undercutting the tooooo high-priced kits out there will be worth your effort.

 

So what sort of agreement are you guys offering to the test mules ? I certainly hope that while you're "pioneering" and seeing what the test cars motor can handle, that you pay for the engine replacement when you blow it up.

The guys that have chimed in that your offer to the test mule is low are exactly right. They are without their car for 2+ months(never seen a project like this come in on time, bet double that) and what sort of warranty do they have when their engine fails 6 months down the road because you detonated the crap out of it while "pioneering" the turbo kit and seeing what the engine can handle.

You should probably rethink the offer to the test mule, they would have a lot more to lose than you, they should be compensated for it.

--wes

 

I understand you guys don't want to be without your car for 2 months but the thing is, nothing in life is free and if it is you don't want it. This offer isn't for tire kickers that aren't serious about modifying there cars anyways. The people that are serious abuot modification realize the deal when they see it. 350z's are the only group of peeps that i've had trouble finding a donor car for.
-Mazda RX8
-Nissan Altima
-Nissan Sentra
-Nissan Maxima
-Mazda RX7
-Toyota Supra TT
I found these cars in 2 weeks and the people were actually happy they were saving money on installation, getting a kit at cost, free tuning, and free sponsorship.

 

you can keep my car for 2 months if we agree to damage terms in a contract my lawyer will rite up etc...

 

We can't do that, that would just turn into a big mess, you could say a ding that was on your car from a shopping mall incident wasn't there before you gave us the car or whatever. We hold no liability, but there are some tricks we can pull w/ warranty and what not.

When you get to the shop you'll understand, there is 2 skylines, 3 supras a few RX-7s, these guys didn't have a problem with doing custom turbo kits.

Like i said we can't be held liable for anything but we have our reputation at stake here.

 

hrmm...

so if i bring a car to a shop and they scratch the door after going over the car before i give it to them and seeing that it is perfect and mark it on a paper they arent responsible?

if you put the kit on my car for free... you can do it...

so it doesnt cost me a dime but enough for a rental car...

 

A buddy of mine is going to be picking up a 350z within the next few months, we'll do everything on his car if we have too. I guarantee you guys won't be disappointed with the kit especially and the reasonable price tag, warranty on components.

And konverter like i stated before, we're not going to mess your car up or be careless, because our reputation is at stake.

 

well, your reputation is just as at steak by being like this and not offereing some kind of assurance that your stand behind your word...

a company that does what ever is needed to please the customer is much more respected then one that just says they will be careful etc...

im curious about the terms of the warrenty...

does it say..

"our reputation is at sake so if your car gets messed up its not our responsibility?"

just being a hard ***...

but i would consider this...

especially because ill be out of town for a few months..

 

Uhhh...why would anyone trust their Zs with a company that can't even dish out 27k for a test car? How do you expect people, who spent good money on their cars, to trust a company that has so little capital? What would happen if something went wrong and the engine blew up? Who'd pay for the repair costs? What happens if they get into an accident during one of their test runs? Who'd pay for that? I doubt they would--they can't even pay for the freaking turbo components!

Basically, this company gets to play with other people's money, and they won't even take responsibility when they wreck the car. WHAT A GREAT DEAL! Sign me up!

 

The deal stands as any custom turbo kit would. I don't think anyone doing a custom turbo kit would warranty your engine. Why spend 27K on a car we're not going to use, I offer this deal because some of you appreciate it and i've gotten alot of interested donors.

 

I agree. I checked their website, and these guys have been in business since mid 2003. Wow! What a track record. Buy your own car guys and prove what you can do....you can alway sell it when you're done with it. But if you can't even afford to do that, how the hell are you going to manufacture a reliable product?