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Old 05-27-2011, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherZ
Yes there is it is 5+ for that my tune is suposed to be on map 1... just found this out today which would have helped and saved time. Havent messed with it but will see what happens tomorrow... I tryed in on map one before with no sucess
goodluck, im having engine problems too, i think i fried my ecu
Old 05-27-2011, 04:17 PM
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if the car starts and runs and drives fine with stock ecu and stock injectors, than you know the problem is either the injectors, the UTEC, or the calibration of the UTEC.

Why dont you just unplug the injectors so your not spraying fuel, take out the UTEC, and just crank and check for spark. If you spark then you plug the UTEC back in. If you have no spark, then you know you have a bad UTEC or something wacky in the settings. From there you take it to someone who can tune/setup your UTEC.
Old 05-27-2011, 07:28 PM
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i dont know anything about the utec. but does it need to be programmed to the key and vin? when i switched out my ecu for a new one i needed the key code matched with my vin # matched with my ecu. if that makes any sense...
Old 05-27-2011, 07:38 PM
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dont take this the wrong way, but also might want to check if you got the injector harness installed correctly.
Old 05-28-2011, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ddc665350ztt
i dont know anything about the utec. but does it need to be programmed to the key and vin?
No

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Old 05-28-2011, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by ddc665350ztt
dont take this the wrong way, but also might want to check if you got the injector harness installed correctly.
The harness only clips in one way tho...
Old 05-28-2011, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherZ
The harness only clips in one way tho...
i think he meant correct connectors on the correct injectors
Old 05-28-2011, 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
i think he meant correct connectors on the correct injectors
Yeah sorry that's what I meant.
Old 05-29-2011, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ddc665350ztt
Yeah sorry that's what I meant.
That shouldnt affect me getting spark though. I am still getting fuel to the plugs.. just no spark with Utec pluged in,
Old 05-29-2011, 11:05 AM
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true, i was thinking more on the lines of misfires.
Old 05-30-2011, 07:07 PM
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Ok, this is really confusing. So today out of curiousity I put the stock injectors back in stock ECU fired right up. So i hooked up the Utec with stock injectors on the tune and it fired up and ran but ran kind of rough (probably not getting enough fuel). Which makes me wonder if maybe my issue is with the injectors... but then again I dont understand why i wouldnt get spark with the 650s and would with the stock injectors... Are the injectors tyed in somehow with the spark?

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Old 05-31-2011, 07:21 PM
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Anyone??
Old 06-01-2011, 06:17 AM
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so after all of this, has a competent tuner looked at your tune? just because there is a tune on it from another car, does not mean its appropriate for your car
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
so after all of this, has a competent tuner looked at your tune? just because there is a tune on it from another car, does not mean its appropriate for your car
The tune on the car came from the SAME guy i got my vortech kit from everything is IDETICAL mechanically, non rev, same kit used on his car, 650cc injectors, same utec, even the same year car. The shop that did the tune on the utec is the shop that took the utec off his car. I spoke with the shop owner about it.

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Old 06-01-2011, 03:29 PM
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So what are you waiting for? Go get the car tuned. If something is wrong with the utec or it's installation, the tuner will see once plugged in and trying to tune it.

You have ruled out the problem to be either the injectors or the utec or the tune.

There's nothing else the forum can help you with now. You can either try swapping the injectors, double checking your utec install, get a tune.. We can't do any of that for you
Old 06-01-2011, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by phunk
So what are you waiting for? Go get the car tuned. If something is wrong with the utec or it's installation, the tuner will see once plugged in and trying to tune it.

You have ruled out the problem to be either the injectors or the utec or the tune.

There's nothing else the forum can help you with now. You can either try swapping the injectors, double checking your utec install, get a tune.. We can't do any of that for you
I was going to take it to get a tune in a couple months, I paid extra for the utec because it had a streetable tune I was going to use for a couple months (also because I dont have a trailer to tow car 3 hrs for tune). Just trying to figure out what is messed up since we have identical set ups and it works fine on his and not mine.
Old 06-02-2011, 07:19 AM
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you dont need to trailer anything. vacuum is vacuum and it should run like stock since the stock ECU is in control. All you can do is slightly scale the injectors under vacuum in the 0% load. All the other starting params are controlled by the stock ECU.

If the car doesnt start and you have around -10 in all the 0% load columns, its not a ECU problem, unless your stock ECU took a dump.
Old 06-05-2011, 02:51 PM
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Got it running a few days ago, thanks everyone for helpful input.
Old 06-05-2011, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by JustAnotherZ
Got it running a few days ago, thanks everyone for helpful input.
Good to hear you're up and running. So what was it?
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Originally Posted by 05Z33
Good to hear you're up and running. So what was it?
FML a few of the clips were not latched all of the way on the injectors (dont know why that caused it not to spark) But its running like a champ now. I just found a salvaged Z like 15 minutes away from my house that is fully built and twin turbo for only 4k. So IDK how long this Vortech will be on if i decide to buy that lol. But so far I have only been around town once in it and it made a huuuuge difference from stock!


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