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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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just wanted to get some input on something.. i saw an add on craigslist for a used turbonetics kit for 3 grand. he said it was only on for 3000 miles as well. here is a list what the Kit includes:
60-1/Stage V.77 A/R Turbocharger (ball bearing) Turbonetics (no shaft play)
Turbonetics Evolution Wastegate
Turbonetics Raptor Blow Off Valve
Spearco Front Mount Intercooler
Black Chrome anodized aluminum charge piping
Polished exhaust piping
380cc injectors (plug and play)
Walbro 240 fuel pump
I'm also including Greddy PRO-FECII boost controller, Defi boost gauge. PLX Wideband. HKS Type 1 turbo timer.

should i offer $2500 or does this sound like a bad idea?
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A few questions of my own:
What is your experience/knowledge with FI?
What is your experience/knowledge working on the Z platform?
Do you know how to install and tune it yourself?
Do you have a shop in mind for the install?
Is this your daily driver?

But to answer your question "or does this sound like a bad idea":
Based solely on -
1) a Nov 2011 join date
2) your 17 posts so far
3) you're looking to buy FI off of craigslist
4) you're looking at possibly the least popular/respected non-Ebay kit
5) the kit was only on for 3k miles for previous seller

I would say this has a high probability of fail. So "Yes, it sounds like a bad idea."

But that's me making a lot of assumptions based on what I know right now.

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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SparkleCityHop
A few questions of my own:
What is your experience/knowledge with FI?
What is your experience/knowledge working on the Z platform?
Do you know how to install and tune it yourself?
Do you have a shop in mind for the install?
Is this your daily driver?

But to answer your question "or does this sound like a bad idea":
Based solely on -
1) a Nov 2011 join date
2) your 17 posts so far
3) you're looking to buy FI off of craigslist
4) you're looking at possibly the least popular/respected non-Ebay kit
5) the kit was only on for 3k miles for previous seller

I would say this has a high probability of fail. So "Yes, it sounds like a bad idea."

But that's me making a lot of assumptions based on what I know right now.
i have spent quite a lot of time reading about fi but have never done to any of my vehicles.. i know a decent amount, i took half my engine apart, helped my friend rebuild his, and worked on many other non z cars.. i could install but not tune it.. it is my daily.. i was actually just looking for oem brembo calipers and came across this. and why is it least respected? im not looking for a racecar.. just like fi and want more power. 360 whp would be more than enough for me
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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Do a search for that kit and read up. I'm not going to trash one particular kit over another, but I'm paraphrasing what I've heard and been told by several knowledgable members that frequent this sub-forum. Also, knowing that you're looking at a goal of 360whp is different than someone coming in with "I found this kit on craigslist, how much HP will it make if I buy it?"

If it's your daily driver and you rely on it to get you to school/work, you have to weigh the added risk for yourself, but I wouldn't do it for my only ride. Anytime you slide the needle over to MOAR POWAR, you're compromising MOAR RELIABLE.

MOAR RELIABLE|------------------0--------------------|MOAR POWAR

Have you watched the video yet and gone through all of the FI stickies? My advice may come softer/gentler than some of the hardcore FI guys on here. Also, on that note, I'm going to leave it to the real FI guys to give you their opinions. I'm a nitrous noob and still learning a lot about tuning and FI, so I'm not the best qualified to make FI suggestions.

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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 06:00 PM
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yeah i understand all of that and i bought this car wanting to blow lots of money on it haha so if i bought the kit i probably would get pistons and rods and stuff installed first. but i do appreciate the input
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Good deal. You just never know when someone new comes in... We get everything from knowledgable folks to 16 year olds that have never popped the hood on a car, but want to buy and install Ebay Twin Turbos by themselves on the Z that mommy and daddy just took out a loan on.

Good luck!

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Monte Python said it best: "run awaaay"
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yeah i understand all of that and i bought this car wanting to blow lots of money on it haha so if i bought the kit i probably would get pistons and rods and stuff installed first. but i do appreciate the input
The fact that you would consider pistons and rods for this kit confirms that "this is a bad idea". Get some Brembos and do a lot more reading. Even if you got the kit for $2500, you should expect $4K spent by the time you get on the road. Thinking pistons and rods and you can easily push the bill to $7-8K.

F/I works like this:

Power ... Reliability ... Affordability ...... Choose any two.

I will let a few of the other regulars chime in and then this will most likely be done. Welcome to the forum. I hope you can use it as a source of information and a way to share ideas and gain knowledge, but the F/I forum is Sparta... we prey upon the weak.
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Steer clear of the Turbonetics kit - there are many better options available. PM Sent.
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Don't go FI, research for at least 6 months maybe a year or two and let that money sit.

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Steer clear of the Turbonetics kit - there are many better options available. PM Sent.
Like a gaurdian angel... Hal swoops in to save a noob
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 08:59 AM
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Aren't 380CC injectors stock? And does walbro make a '240' pump?
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just my input i would stay away from the turbo for now. go for your brake set up maybe suspension set up. forced induction will cost you. after the parts and time spent putting it all together especially if you pay someone to do it will add up fast. tuning is probably the most important part of it and that doesnt come cheap if you want it done right. i built my mitsubishi so im telling you from experience its time consuming and expensive. fortunatly for me i know how to do the wrench work and tune so it was a little softer of my pockets. i would suggest learning as much as you can about how to do the turbo set up and tuning first. good luck
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Originally Posted by teamevolution2
just my input i would stay away from the turbo for now. go for your brake set up maybe suspension set up. forced induction will cost you. after the parts and time spent putting it all together especially if you pay someone to do it will add up fast. tuning is probably the most important part of it and that doesnt come cheap if you want it done right. i built my mitsubishi so im telling you from experience its time consuming and expensive. fortunatly for me i know how to do the wrench work and tune so it was a little softer of my pockets. i would suggest learning as much as you can about how to do the turbo set up and tuning first. good luck
just so yal know i am only 17 years old, but that in no way determines what i know about cars, like i said i have done a lot of work on cars in the past and actually might be going into the autotech field pretty soon.. but anyways, i already have ksport coils and a front camber kit on the car so im good as for suspension. i do plan on upgrading brakes to a certain extent.. probably the package from z1 with drilled and slotted rotors, hawk pads, ss brake lines, and fuid. this is a cheap upgrade in comparison to lets say a bbk or even the oem brembos, which i feel are pointless in my situation.
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Originally Posted by 350ZYZZ
probably the package from z1 with drilled and slotted rotors, hawk pads, ss brake lines, and fuid. this is a cheap upgrade in comparison to lets say a bbk or even the oem brembos, which i feel are pointless in my situation.
I hope you understand that package is designed to reduce brake fade on hard use, and that it won't stop your actual stopping power. Brake fade is more of an issue on the track than on a street car, on a street turbo car those mods are kind of throwing money away imho.


PS do your-self a favor and don't bring your age into conversations about cars modding etc going fast in general or anything.
Nobody is going to give you props for you and your situation being young and having a fast car. People might give you props if you keep that out of the conversation and you maturely and respectful communicate with them, because eventually they WILL find out how old you are.
I recommend you do some research and don't even bother coming back in this thread especially with the "HEY I WORKED SUUPER HARD FOR THIS **** BLAH BLAH IM MATURE I DESERVE A COOKIE IN MY ASSH*LE" stuff (not sayin that's who you are, but knowing kids that's where this will go).
So here's my last bit of constructive criticism (you've gotten plenty thus far ignoring it will open your ****ole up and let us pour out a fat nasty can of whoop *** that will hurt your ego) the Turbonetics kit is NO BUENO, better off saving and doing it right. If you really want to go fast for cheap, just sell the Z and get another chassis/engine combo because the z33 was just not made for easy simple FI sh*t.
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Originally Posted by SparkleCityHop
My advice may come softer/gentler than some of the hardcore FI guys on here.
Originally Posted by Cass007
I hope you can use it as a source of information and a way to share ideas and gain knowledge, but the F/I forum is Sparta... we prey upon the weak.
OP, you'll see that there is a growing consensus from the folks that know the platform and FI best, and that everyone so far is in agreement. Bad idea.

You're probably best off listening to the advice and spending some time reading and researching.

Good luck, OP & glad that we could help answer your question.
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
I hope you understand that package is designed to reduce brake fade on hard use, and that it won't stop your actual stopping power. Brake fade is more of an issue on the track than on a street car, on a street turbo car those mods are kind of throwing money away imho.


PS do your-self a favor and don't bring your age into conversations about cars modding etc going fast in general or anything.
Nobody is going to give you props for you and your situation being young and having a fast car. People might give you props if you keep that out of the conversation and you maturely and respectful communicate with them, because eventually they WILL find out how old you are.
I recommend you do some research and don't even bother coming back in this thread especially with the "HEY I WORKED SUUPER HARD FOR THIS **** BLAH BLAH IM MATURE I DESERVE A COOKIE IN MY ASSH*LE" stuff (not sayin that's who you are, but knowing kids that's where this will go).
So here's my last bit of constructive criticism (you've gotten plenty thus far ignoring it will open your ****ole up and let us pour out a fat nasty can of whoop *** that will hurt your ego) the Turbonetics kit is NO BUENO, better off saving and doing it right. If you really want to go fast for cheap, just sell the Z and get another chassis/engine combo because the z33 was just not made for easy simple FI sh*t.
not trying to be a pen15 here but first of all, as for that brake kit obviously the rotors are not going to affect stopping power but those pads are an upgrade from oem as well as the ss lines.. secondly i only even mentioned my age because of a comment below that mentioned 16 year olds that mommy and daddy bought there cars and bs.. so dont try and shove that up my ash. and lastly i get it, the kit isnt that great to start with and especially buying it used, just figured that if i could pick up a 4500+ turbo kit for maybe 2500, why not.. but im done, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Resmarted
PS do your-self a favor and don't bring your age into conversations about cars modding etc going fast in general or anything.

If you really want to go fast for cheap, just sell the Z and get another chassis/engine combo because the z33 was just not made for easy simple FI sh*t.
Best words of advice on this forum.
That quote is sticky worthy.
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secondly i only even mentioned my age because of a comment below that mentioned 16 year olds that mommy and daddy bought there cars and bs.. so dont try and shove that up my ash.
If that's all that you got out of my comment, you missed the whole point.

If you're a responsible person, learn from our comments and don't take it so personal (especially in this sub-forum, or the real FI guys are going to have you for lunch).

If you're not, go get the crappy turbo kit off of craigslist that was probably already abused, put it on with a buddy whose daddy owns a bunch of tools, up the boost on your stock engine with no tune, go racing in your daily driver vehicle to "look cool to the chicks (or dudes, whatever your preference)", blow the engine before it is even paid off, and learn the hard way that you can put a $3k part on your $18k car that leaves you with a $0 car afterwards - even better, still be making payments on it.

Ask this guy if he's happy with his similarly poor decisions:

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