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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 02:45 PM
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I've been reading through all the turbo set up but realize most people are running the halteah PNP kit or osiris.

Anyone have opinion on the Pro Efi 48 or 128 standalone? They seems like super bang for the buck with top notch functions. My tuner suggest me getting that instead of going with the PNP since I am some what on a budget.

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 03:00 PM
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Not sure why your tuner is suggesting it if your on a budget. If your on a budget go with Osiris or Uprev.. Unless there's been a pricing change. Is your tuner an dealer/tuner for ProEFI?
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 03:16 PM
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+1. I would go with the Pro Efi since I'm here in AZ and their facility is in Scottsdale. If I were you make sure your tuner is comfortable with working on that particular ems. If you do plan on running the Pro Efi, your going to have to buy the separate sensors and such to run those parameters for your car. For example, here is a link to how much one sensor costs: http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/part...Pressure/17970

The pro 48 is $780 while the the 128 is running $1880. Then you gotta cover the cost of installation and the labor. Still just make sure your tuner is comfortable with the system and it should be fine.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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For the 48 computer it’s also almost a grand for the complete harness…
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 03:40 PM
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Its a great system but definitely not for a person on a budget. I dont think there's an HR harness available either.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 03:49 PM
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Up-rev would be the best/most affordable way for you to go by a long shot, I guess the unfortunate part is the closest up-rev dealer/licensed tuner in Western Canada is Lightspeed innovations in RedDeer Alberta. The good news is he has tuned lots of Boosted Z/Gs.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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I should put it this way, the pro efi 48 or 128 are relatively cheaper compare to the haltech PNP kit. My tuner is both Pro efi and haltech dealer so I don't think he's really bias on either side. I am leaning towards the pro efi right now but they are relatively new. I can't find much reviews on them so I would just want to know if anyone have any first hand experiences.

Osiris tuner is my initial plan but after I think about it, the closest tuner is like 12hrs away. And I'll probably need to upgrade if I am building my motor later this year. I am not sure if the osiris will be good with a built motor running 1.5-1.6bar.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:44 AM
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what people are trying to tell you is the price your tuner is telling you is WITHOUT a harness its just the ems itself. you have to pay an extra $1000 for the wiring harness to even use the damn thing. so whatever your tuner is telling you add $1000 to it and thats what it really cost, the 48 is actually pretty much the same price as a haltech, because the haltech comes with the wiring harness.

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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 03:53 AM
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Dont forget guys that Haltech finally released their Pro Plug-in series so no more harness but a complete ecu replacement. Currently it is available only for the VQ35de but it was stated that the unit will be available for the VQ35HR soon.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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if your tuner has the dealer ProEFI tuning box, then no reason not to go with that.

Who is your shop, dont see any Proefi dealers in canada?
http://www.proefi.com/Dealer_List.html

With used Haltechs going for 1200$ though, thats hard to pass up.

FWIW, Anyone that has inspections cannot use the new Haltech Pro
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 07:14 AM
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I have a Haltech platinum for sale with the HR patch harness done by Hal @ Dynosty. Don't count on the stand alone Haltech coming out anytime soon for the HR either. The Haltech has been out for how long, and they never bothered to even make a harness for the HR. I'd be willing to work with ya on the price and shipping since its going up to Canada if you're interested. Here's the link to my FS thread:
https://my350z.com/forum/turbos-nitr...um-for-hr.html
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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Hmm, you guys got me thinking again.

however, I don't really need the 350z harness. I am just going to run a full standalone with custom harness.

The universal plug n pin kit is $113 for the pro 48. Since either way, I have to pay $7-800 converting the HR harness to make it work on my car. I might as well, use that 800 to work on the pro efi. I am going to my tuner to go over this today so i'll let you guys know how it goes.

My tuner is independent speed shop. They are a haltech dealer. I think they just sign up for the pro efi, so i guess that's why they are not on there site yet!?

I would like the haltech platinum pro but 2600 is kinda out of my budget consider I still have to pay $800 to convert my harness.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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FWIW, unless your dealer gets the tuner proefi box (which is $$$$), you will have a hard time setting up your base maps. The tuner box allows live updating. The end user boxes have to reflash in all the changes to major parameters.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
if your tuner has the dealer ProEFI tuning box, then no reason not to go with that.

Who is your shop, dont see any Proefi dealers in canada?
http://www.proefi.com/Dealer_List.html

With used Haltechs going for 1200$ though, thats hard to pass up.

FWIW, Anyone that has inspections cannot use the new Haltech Pro
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OP,
Before you proceed any further, I recommend that you contact ProEFI directly and verify your shop's status with ProEFI. Hopefully they're legit with ProEFI. But if you find out that they were blowing sunshine up your butt... RUN AWAY AND TAKE YOUR CAR ELSEWHERE REGARDLESS OF WHICH EMS YOU CHOOSE.
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My platinum pro has the harness already complete, all you have to do is just plug it into your car, there's no other modifications needed. I was going to put this in my 2008 350Z but decided to not go forward with my build. After buying my Haltech there's no other costs besides paying someone to tune it.

If you can get a brand new tuning option besides the Osiris/UpRev reflash for less than $3k than please post it up. From my knowledge the only person who even messes with the HR ecu harness is Hal at Dynosty and if you don't buy the Haltech from him, he charges $1k to wire up the patch harness. If you buy the Haltech through Dynosty and they do the HR patch harness then the cost is like $3k. We got screwed with HR motor since Nissan only decided to produce it for 2 years. It's better to either own a 370Z or a DE motor

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Hmm, you guys got me thinking again.

however, I don't really need the 350z harness. I am just going to run a full standalone with custom harness.

The universal plug n pin kit is $113 for the pro 48. Since either way, I have to pay $7-800 converting the HR harness to make it work on my car. I might as well, use that 800 to work on the pro efi. I am going to my tuner to go over this today so i'll let you guys know how it goes.

My tuner is independent speed shop. They are a haltech dealer. I think they just sign up for the pro efi, so i guess that's why they are not on there site yet!?

I would like the haltech platinum pro but 2600 is kinda out of my budget consider I still have to pay $800 to convert my harness.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 12:08 AM
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I went to talk with my tuner today.

He suggested to get the Pro Plug & Pin kit for $113, fuel pressure sensor, $150, map sensor $150 and the Pro 48. $800.
However, if you want to run it on a 350z. it'll be alot more since more will be involve than just making the car runs. My car is a full out track car so I don't need anything else to work beside having the car runs.

08NismoZ, you are right your Haltech is already wired up but I don't own a 350z. lol so either way, I have to convert the harness to work on my chassis.

However, I will hold off right now since my tuner is doing another car with the pro efi I will see how that car turns out before placing an order so I have an first hand experience.

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Originally Posted by C-unit
I went to talk with my tuner today.

He suggested to get the Pro Plug & Pin kit for $113, fuel pressure sensor, $150, map sensor $150 and the Pro 48. $800.
However, if you want to run it on a 350z. it'll be alot more since more will be involve than just making the car runs. My car is a full out track car so I don't need anything else to work beside having the car runs.

08NismoZ, you are right your Haltech is already wired up but I don't own a 350z. lol so either way, I have to convert the harness to work on my chassis.

However, I will hold off right now since my tuner is doing another car with the pro efi I will see how that car turns out before placing an order so I have an first hand experience.
Who is your tuner?
Where in Canada?
From my searches (while back) We do not have any authorized ProEFI tuners in Canada..
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Lol my bad man, reading fail! I just saw VQ35HR and didn't even look at what it was in.

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I went to talk with my tuner today.

He suggested to get the Pro Plug & Pin kit for $113, fuel pressure sensor, $150, map sensor $150 and the Pro 48. $800.
However, if you want to run it on a 350z. it'll be alot more since more will be involve than just making the car runs. My car is a full out track car so I don't need anything else to work beside having the car runs.

08NismoZ, you are right your Haltech is already wired up but I don't own a 350z. lol so either way, I have to convert the harness to work on my chassis.

However, I will hold off right now since my tuner is doing another car with the pro efi I will see how that car turns out before placing an order so I have an first hand experience.
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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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Ok, so i'm going to play devils advocate here with the pro-efi system quick since I ran both the 128 and platinum (very short time). The haltec is by far alot more user friendly to get setup and working, although it lacks some features of the pro-efi. If your looking to use all the features that come with the pro-efi (48 or 128) make sure you speak with both your tuner and he speaks with Jason at Pro-efi... When everything runs right with pro-efi it is an awesome system, but there are lots of quirks in the system when using all the features at the same time. Example is that I use two-step and traction control while having my can display in... The display loses connection all the time when all three are on and my car is being controlled by the pro-efi can and throttle motor. If you are using it 100% as standalone and not piggy backing it I cannot provide input.

I ran a haltec for about 3 weeks just to break in my motor, we literally loaded a base tune in, and street tuned the car for drivability for about 4 hours to have smooth drivability for break in. Obviously this didnt make for peak power, but that was not the intention to begin with.

Once I had the pro-efi, the system didn't have the right software on pro-efi's site at the time to download to my laptop, so I couldn't even get the car started (could, but the base map sucked terribly so better to leave it off)... Once I finally had it tuned by a pro-efi tuner, things were much better, but there was alot that had to be done that I could not do with end user software. TO NOTE: THIS IS NOT AN END USER FRIENDLY SYSTEM LIKE A HALTEC. I personally like when I get everything right out of the box, and it is all ready to be working, I did not appreciate being locked out of my box because newly released drivers were being released and not yet on the pro-efi website, yet the ems unit being sent to me required the driver and license that they had not yet posted.

Currently my harness is in AZ getting looked at for all my connection issues, and thankfully I never messed with it other then allowing my certified tuner to. If everything is fixed upon return without cost then this is a moot point, but noone should have to constantly fight the actual ems of the car to have everything run right, if it's advertised and sold a particular way, then it better all work as advertised is what i'm saying, and for me that has not been the case. I will note that Sound Performance, specifically Reid was very helpful in getting me information at the last minute that I did not have, even at 8pm at night!!!

IMO if your tuner is local, really knows the system, can reach Jason on his cell at ANY time, and your intention is racing the car, then PRO-EFI is a great choice, drivability is not as easily obtained as it is in Haltecs and other systems. Your talking about two great systems, but ultimately which one is going to do what you need for the least amount of headaches.
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