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Procharger without intercooler?

Old 02-10-2017, 09:27 AM
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Default Procharger without intercooler?

Has anyone installed a Procharger without inter cooler?
to decrease the air temperature, I would install a water injection.
Old 02-10-2017, 10:13 AM
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I doubt anyone has... why wouldn't you just run an intercooler?
Old 02-10-2017, 10:29 AM
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to get more pressure without more burdening the procharger.
Old 02-10-2017, 12:09 PM
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That's dumb, just run an intercooler it's like a 1 psi drop or so. If your worried about AIT's run E85.
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indeed dumb...ATIs procharger is plenty big for the 8-12psi it can put without a significant drop in pressure...
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IMO, it's not dumb....... People do be to quick to judge, you might learn something.

I've seen many guys at the Dragstrip on 1500-2000hp cars w/o an Intercooler for that very reason, they all run 100% Alcohol though.....

IMO, it just will not be beneficial for the street. with a Hi quality IC you can pump up the PSI and still have very cool ATI's.

I'm at 18-20psi and ATI's are only bout 8-10*f above ambient.

I'm an Automotive Engineer, and I had the privilege of working for George Wallace in the 70's and 80's and Sportscoach Motorhome and at B&M Automotive Racing Products. Prior to that he was the Chief Engineer working at Chrysler and Head of the Project to make the Worlds first 200MPH Production car. It was the Dodge Charger Daytona.....

I learned so much from this man. The biggest leason I learned was to never be afraid to take about an idea. (never worry about what other people thing) because taking about it may lead to an Awesome Idea.
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is even aware you all that the ball bearings are designed in the Procharger not for more than 8psi. the ball bearings can withstand maximum 60,000 rpm. 7psi 6500 engine speed are 60,000 rpm compressor shaft.
I've installed kermik bearings but you go 80.000 rpm maximum.

I have 8psi, 7000 engine speed and 75,000 rpm compressor shaft.

so it is impossible to give more psi because the Procharger not for out put is

Hence my idea to get more psi without intercooler

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Old 02-12-2017, 10:26 AM
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you must have a boost leak or be at very high altitude. at 75k rpm blower speed I was pushing 12 psi on the procharger at sea level
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What is the CFM rating and the Boost rating on that Supercharger?

Originally Posted by Florian350zATI
is even aware you all that the ball bearings are designed in the Procharger not for more than 8psi. the ball bearings can withstand maximum 60,000 rpm. 7psi 6500 engine speed are 60,000 rpm compressor shaft.
I've installed kermik bearings but you go 80.000 rpm maximum.

I have 8psi, 7000 engine speed and 75,000 rpm compressor shaft.

so it is impossible to give more psi because the Procharger not for out put is

Hence my idea to get more psi without intercooler
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Your Supercharger (C-2) is Rated at 1000CFM, and 24PSI.....

You absolutely have a Boost leak. Fix that, then think about changing the gearing if you have not already done that.
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