SC question
Originally posted by myGthang
Can you pull the sc belt? For example for long distance travel, and not do any harm? Or is ok just to drive it...long distance travel as in a 5hr drive?
Can you pull the sc belt? For example for long distance travel, and not do any harm? Or is ok just to drive it...long distance travel as in a 5hr drive?
I asked Vortech that exact question earlier and they said you can but the SC itself would create a severe airflow restriction. I would just leave it on during the trip since the cruising RPM should not be high enough to create any real boost and cause any effect on MPG.
If your car is tuned for a supercharger and you take the belt off, your car will run really rich. So you performance will be waaay worse than stock and MPG will suck anyway. It would be better and safer for the engine to keep it on.
Originally posted by myGthang
Can you pull the sc belt? For example for long distance travel, and not do any harm? Or is ok just to drive it...long distance travel as in a 5hr drive?
Can you pull the sc belt? For example for long distance travel, and not do any harm? Or is ok just to drive it...long distance travel as in a 5hr drive?
Originally posted by basam350z
If your car is tuned for a supercharger and you take the belt off, your car will run really rich. So you performance will be waaay worse than stock and MPG will suck anyway. It would be better and safer for the engine to keep it on.
If your car is tuned for a supercharger and you take the belt off, your car will run really rich. So you performance will be waaay worse than stock and MPG will suck anyway. It would be better and safer for the engine to keep it on.
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Sorry dude, you are off. The Vortech is tuned by a piggyback computer called the splitsecond box. This has fuel and ignition maps that are not boost dependent.
ATI adds fuel only for boost? I wasn't aware the Aeromotive unit did this. It would still run a little rich because of the HUGE SUPERCHARGER IN THE WAY OF THE INTAKE!
ATI adds fuel only for boost? I wasn't aware the Aeromotive unit did this. It would still run a little rich because of the HUGE SUPERCHARGER IN THE WAY OF THE INTAKE!
Originally posted by Enron Exec
Thats not true on the ATI kit and im sure its not true for the Vortech kit either. The ATI kit will only add the extra fuel if it detects boost.
Thats not true on the ATI kit and im sure its not true for the Vortech kit either. The ATI kit will only add the extra fuel if it detects boost.
Originally posted by basam350z
Sorry dude, you are off. The Vortech is tuned by a piggyback computer called the splitsecond box. This has fuel and ignition maps that are not boost dependent.
ATI adds fuel only for boost? I wasn't aware the Aeromotive unit did this. It would still run a little rich because of the HUGE SUPERCHARGER IN THE WAY OF THE INTAKE!
Sorry dude, you are off. The Vortech is tuned by a piggyback computer called the splitsecond box. This has fuel and ignition maps that are not boost dependent.
ATI adds fuel only for boost? I wasn't aware the Aeromotive unit did this. It would still run a little rich because of the HUGE SUPERCHARGER IN THE WAY OF THE INTAKE!
I take my belt off occasionally for long trips because it seems like a waste of wear on the supercharger etc.
Originally posted by basam350z
Sorry dude, you are off. The Vortech is tuned by a piggyback computer called the splitsecond box. This has fuel and ignition maps that are not boost dependent.
ATI adds fuel only for boost? I wasn't aware the Aeromotive unit did this. It would still run a little rich because of the HUGE SUPERCHARGER IN THE WAY OF THE INTAKE!
Sorry dude, you are off. The Vortech is tuned by a piggyback computer called the splitsecond box. This has fuel and ignition maps that are not boost dependent.
ATI adds fuel only for boost? I wasn't aware the Aeromotive unit did this. It would still run a little rich because of the HUGE SUPERCHARGER IN THE WAY OF THE INTAKE!
I was told the Split second box does read off boost?
Originally posted by basam350z
Sorry dude, you are off. The Vortech is tuned by a piggyback computer called the splitsecond box. This has fuel and ignition maps that are not boost dependent.
Sorry dude, you are off. The Vortech is tuned by a piggyback computer called the splitsecond box. This has fuel and ignition maps that are not boost dependent.
Again... the SplitSecond box maps ARE INDEED BOOST DEPENDENT. Do I need to send you a screen shot?
--Steve
From Splite seconds website.
I stand corrected:
"Two three-dimensional map tables defined by absolute pressure and RPM"
Zimbo, how do you like this thing?
I stand corrected:
"Two three-dimensional map tables defined by absolute pressure and RPM"
Zimbo, how do you like this thing?
Originally posted by zimbo
FALSE FALSE FALSE. Both of those maps are based on RPMs versus Boost.
Again... the SplitSecond box maps ARE INDEED BOOST DEPENDENT. Do I need to send you a screen shot?
--Steve
FALSE FALSE FALSE. Both of those maps are based on RPMs versus Boost.
Again... the SplitSecond box maps ARE INDEED BOOST DEPENDENT. Do I need to send you a screen shot?
--Steve
Just to hammer a point down I have ran both cogs off at different times (front and rear) while waiting on belts and it ran fine, just as mentioned you need the serpantine.
I sure am glad I resolved that belt nightmare man what a long road that was.
I sure am glad I resolved that belt nightmare man what a long road that was.
Originally posted by jesseenglish
Literally takes me 30 seconds to remove the belt. It will probably take longer if you use your tensioner jack screw (I don't), like maybe 2 minutes.
Literally takes me 30 seconds to remove the belt. It will probably take longer if you use your tensioner jack screw (I don't), like maybe 2 minutes.
It might help MPG a little bit, but probably not much more than you'd lose from using the A/C. That's a good question. I should call ATI about that. If I had to guess, I'd say 50,000 miles, but it's just a guess, could be 1 million miles as far as I know.
All this talk about taking off the belt for trip is meaningless, because you know the second you take it off a EVO 8 will pull up on you left side and a Z06 will pull up on the right side. Than what. "Wait, I gotta put my belt on!"

Originally posted by jesseenglish
Literally takes me 30 seconds to remove the belt. It will probably take longer if you use your tensioner jack screw (I don't), like maybe 2 minutes.
Literally takes me 30 seconds to remove the belt. It will probably take longer if you use your tensioner jack screw (I don't), like maybe 2 minutes.
Originally posted by basam350z
All this talk about taking off the belt for trip is meaningless, because you know the second you take it off a EVO 8 will pull up on you left side and a Z06 will pull up on the right side. Than what. "Wait, I gotta put my belt on!"

All this talk about taking off the belt for trip is meaningless, because you know the second you take it off a EVO 8 will pull up on you left side and a Z06 will pull up on the right side. Than what. "Wait, I gotta put my belt on!"
The STILLEN Supercharger Systems all have bypass valves that open when boost is not needed. IE highway cruising or non-acceleration situations. This lets the motor run as a normally aspirated motor would and uses little (if any) additional fuel.


