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Old May 4, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Well, finally got all the parts for my install and the car is now at the shop for fitting.
I'm hoping to get down there tomorrow and have a good look at progress so far.
One of my kinetix cats is down at the fab shop getting the bung welded in place, that should be ready for tomorrow.
I'll keep you all updated of progress.
I hope all goes well, and cant wait to get it back on the road.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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So, you need to get a extra bung for the O2 sensor? What type are you using? It is placed after the actual cat correct? I have knietix cats too and plan on getting the vortech soon. Good look on the install.
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Old May 4, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Congrats baptist!
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Old May 4, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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So, you need to get a extra bung for the O2 sensor? What type are you using? It is placed after the actual cat correct? I have knietix cats too and plan on getting the vortech soon. Good look on the install.
I assume your talking about a wideband O2 sensor, in which case, the sensor should be installed upstream of the catalyst material....before the air would actually be filtered by the cat. This would give you the most accurate reading.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 02:55 AM
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Yes, that is where i am getting the bung installed. I needed to see the cat in place on the car to mark out where the bung should go. Its quite a tight fit, as the sensor has to be installed greater than 10 degrees from horizontal to work properly. I can take a picture of the bung in place for your reference, if you like.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Hit a slight snag today with the install. teh215, Fluidz, you may be able to advise me here.
The pipe that comes from downstream of the intercooler isnt fitting too well on the car. The pipe iteself is snagging on the secondary washer bottle which feeds the headlight washers. Just for clarification, the pipe is the one that goes through the plastic engine lining (where the hole is cut) and up towards the maf sensor. Hope you know the one that I mean.
The pipe fits, but it sticks down a bit too far because of the bottle, and the engine pan bulges out at the bottom because of the pipe pushing down on it.
Its nothing critical, but I'm just wondering if you have the second bottle on the US cars.
The compressor is mounted now along with most of the pipework. The dipstick is a really tight fit!
Anyway, let me know what your opinions are on that pipe, thanks alot.
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Originally posted by baptist
Hit a slight snag today with the install. teh215, Fluidz, you may be able to advise me here.
The pipe that comes from downstream of the intercooler isnt fitting too well on the car. The pipe iteself is snagging on the secondary washer bottle which feeds the headlight washers. Just for clarification, the pipe is the one that goes through the plastic engine lining (where the hole is cut) and up towards the maf sensor. Hope you know the one that I mean.
The pipe fits, but it sticks down a bit too far because of the bottle, and the engine pan bulges out at the bottom because of the pipe pushing down on it.
Its nothing critical, but I'm just wondering if you have the second bottle on the US cars.
The compressor is mounted now along with most of the pipework. The dipstick is a really tight fit!
Anyway, let me know what your opinions are on that pipe, thanks alot.
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Um.....I dont think any US Spec Zs have headlight washers.....someone else pipe in if I'm wrong.
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That would explain it then!
Thanks for that.
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Does the Vortech SC kit require you to drill into the block for the oil feed?
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Old May 5, 2004 | 09:59 AM
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Not the feed, but it requires you to tap the pan for the oil return line.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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not the pan, it requires you to tap the block, they say it needs to be higher than the oil level for proper oil return, better make sure baptist.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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Sorry, thats what I meant. They have done it as per the manual, I have seen the location of it. No worries.
Now I have to figure out what we're gonna do with this secondary washer bottle. Its a tight fit in there, so relocating may not be easy, but I'm reluctant to get rid of the bottle.
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Old May 5, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by baptist
Sorry, thats what I meant. They have done it as per the manual, I have seen the location of it. No worries.
Now I have to figure out what we're gonna do with this secondary washer bottle. Its a tight fit in there, so relocating may not be easy, but I'm reluctant to get rid of the bottle.
only the euro-spec autos require headlamp washers......

VERY few us spec models will have the nozzler/sprayers (or wipers) anymore......

maybe you can ditch the secondary reserve, and "Y" split into the windshield reserve instead??

((any us spec autos that are imported into the euro (or asian)) market get a retro fit washer setup....... it totally makes a mess of the entire front/top of the car, at the expense of clean(er) headlamps...
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Old May 6, 2004 | 09:15 AM
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Second washer bottle is now history. You should see the size of that thing, enormous! Should save me a bit of weight !!
All that is left to do is the final wiring on the piggyback ECU, and pull the wiring through for the AEM wideband and vac hose for the boost gauge.
Tomorrow is the big day!!! I'm not going to sleep tonight.
Have put the Greddy type S BOV on, so it will be interesting to see whether the Greddy performs that strange whistle that some people are getting.
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Originally posted by baptist
Second washer bottle is now history. You should see the size of that thing, enormous! Should save me a bit of weight !!
All that is left to do is the final wiring on the piggyback ECU, and pull the wiring through for the AEM wideband and vac hose for the boost gauge.
Tomorrow is the big day!!! I'm not going to sleep tonight.
Have put the Greddy type S BOV on, so it will be interesting to see whether the Greddy performs that strange whistle that some people are getting.
Congrats dude...I want one of these more and more every time I see another happy customer.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:07 PM
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I'll be really happy when the car is up and running, will be anxious to say the least!
Cant wait so see what it sounds like, especially now it will have the high flow cats on.
Heres a question, has anyone with the vortech used a different BOV???? I'll let you know if i get the whistle with the Greddy type S.
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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by baptist
I'll be really happy when the car is up and running, will be anxious to say the least!
Cant wait so see what it sounds like, especially now it will have the high flow cats on.
Heres a question, has anyone with the vortech used a different BOV???? I'll let you know if i get the whistle with the Greddy type S.
keep us posted BAP.....


im about one week - ten days behind ya...... (doug called me today, to inform me that the plenum is on its way......) now all im missing (still) is the fujitsubo exhaust and Y (wont be here for at least 3-4 weeks)....

can you link me to the BOV??? i have wondered myself about upgrading this from original install.......

one more thing..... did vortech send you a map on the SS box that is tailored to the octane levels in the UK??? i know (for motorcycles) the US spec maps are NOT interchangable with the EURO spec maps, due to the different fuels.....

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Old May 6, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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I didnt get any special map made for me, no.
The high grade fuel that Shell sell over here is 98.5 Ron, which equates to around 94 on your pump gas in the US. That coupled with my 1 step colder plugs should protect me against detonation.
I would have thought that the engine would just adjust for higher ocatane fuel.
A question for Fluidz, why did you have to reset your throttle position sensor?? I guess I'll know if I have to or not when the car is started tomorrow.

The Greddy valve is the following universal valve

It is the same flanged fitting as the standard unit, and just bolts straight on. Obviously will need some tweaking to get it just right.
The only problem i have in the UK is that no-one has used the R4 software before and I will obviously want to get it tuned someday. It will be an expensive task as the dyno operator will have to get to grips with the software, and dyno time in the UK is around $170 per hour!!!!! Ripped again!
Anyway, I just want it to run nice and safe tomorrow. Will be keeping a close eye on my wideband whilst first driving the car.
The shop where the kit is fitted have a dyno, but its only rated to 280 rwhp, so we will be putting it on there to load test the car and check for leaks etc.

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Old May 7, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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Got the car back this afternoon. Have just spent the last couple of hours fitting the centre console with my gauges.
The car is absolutely fantastic with the kit installed. Checked the AEM whilst driving under full throttle conditions in each gear, kit is running very rich. No detonation whatsoever. Sometimes the gauge is out of range (rich) whilst under full throttle. Least the stock map has plenty of room for tweaking.
The car is struggling for traction on the Rays alloys.
The greddy BOV sounds great. When coming off the throttle the valve whistles like a banshee. I suppose without a wastegate the boost has to go somewhere.
Has anyone not got the long woosh type sound on overrun?? I can see how it is possible as the valve has to vent.
The shop has done a good job. Will post some pics tomorrow when I get the car cleaned up.
Very happy indeed.
Thanks to all of the advice of members of the board, your knowledge is invaluble.
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