zeitronix installed, review
I installed the zeitronix zt-2 wideband o2 guage + display today and everything is working fine.
For people whose RPM is logged/displayed too low, you need to select "1 cylinder" instead of 6.
I have the unit connected to RPM, TPS, Boost, MAF, in addition to A/F (only EGT was not used).
Pluses:
- main unit is very small
- fast sampling rate (74 samples per sec)
- can data log to computer
- cheap, paid less than 279 in group buy, including bosch o2
Minuses:
- no internal memory so cannot log without pc
- pay extra for display (which is a little big and cannot change what is displayed)
- optional boost controller is expensive and bulky
- wide band output signal is not linear
Overall, I'm happy and will keep it. Anyone install the "mapecu"
yet?
enjoy,
rob
For people whose RPM is logged/displayed too low, you need to select "1 cylinder" instead of 6.
I have the unit connected to RPM, TPS, Boost, MAF, in addition to A/F (only EGT was not used).
Pluses:
- main unit is very small
- fast sampling rate (74 samples per sec)
- can data log to computer
- cheap, paid less than 279 in group buy, including bosch o2
Minuses:
- no internal memory so cannot log without pc
- pay extra for display (which is a little big and cannot change what is displayed)
- optional boost controller is expensive and bulky
- wide band output signal is not linear
Overall, I'm happy and will keep it. Anyone install the "mapecu"
yet?
enjoy,
rob
www.zeitronix.com
the group buy was through a vw forum (gb actually run
by wires4cars.com) for ~249.
the group buy was through a vw forum (gb actually run
by wires4cars.com) for ~249.
Originally posted by booger
Do you have a link to there site ?
Do you have a link to there site ?
I recently bought and installed my Zt-2 and it's "ok". Nothing special so far. I got the RPM signal from my GReddy eManage RPM adapter so "6 cylinders" works fine on mine, however the RPM signal is quite jumpy. It seems to go up and down by as much as 300 RPMs during normal accelleration and decelleration. Hopefully today I'll begin tuning my eManage based on the A/F ratios I log from some 3rd gear WOT runs.
I'm waiting for their "round" A/F gauge to come out. I personally thing that the current gauge is ugly and unless you are actually monitoring your ETG and boost, it's a waste of money.
-Chris
I'm waiting for their "round" A/F gauge to come out. I personally thing that the current gauge is ugly and unless you are actually monitoring your ETG and boost, it's a waste of money.
-Chris
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Rob,
How is your RPM reading? Does it fluctuate a lot? Here's how mine reads (this is from a few WOT runs yesterday):
A/F RPM TPS
-------------------------
14.2 2763 82
14.2 3097 82
14.2 3012 82
14.2 2824 82
14.1 3048 82
14.2 3254 82
14.2 2965 82
14.2 3048 82
14.2 3187 82
14.2 3084 82
14.2 3012 82
14.2 2824 82
14.2 3135 82
14.2 3282 82
14.2 2988 82
As you can see from the TPS reading, I am at WOT, yet if you look at the RPM numbers, they are all over the place. Shouldn't the numbers show a steady increase, not fluctuate up and down as much as they are?
can anyone with a Zt-2 export your data to a csv file, then copy and paste like I did so that I can see how your RPM numbers look? I am curious if it's the GReddy RPM adapter that's screwing up the RPM reading, or if that's just how it works.
-Chris
How is your RPM reading? Does it fluctuate a lot? Here's how mine reads (this is from a few WOT runs yesterday):
A/F RPM TPS
-------------------------
14.2 2763 82
14.2 3097 82
14.2 3012 82
14.2 2824 82
14.1 3048 82
14.2 3254 82
14.2 2965 82
14.2 3048 82
14.2 3187 82
14.2 3084 82
14.2 3012 82
14.2 2824 82
14.2 3135 82
14.2 3282 82
14.2 2988 82
As you can see from the TPS reading, I am at WOT, yet if you look at the RPM numbers, they are all over the place. Shouldn't the numbers show a steady increase, not fluctuate up and down as much as they are?
can anyone with a Zt-2 export your data to a csv file, then copy and paste like I did so that I can see how your RPM numbers look? I am curious if it's the GReddy RPM adapter that's screwing up the RPM reading, or if that's just how it works.
-Chris
Last edited by ChrisMCagle; Sep 8, 2004 at 10:45 AM.
Originally posted by ChrisMCagle
As you can see from the TPS reading, I am at WOT, yet if you look at the RPM numbers, they are all over the place. Shouldn't the numbers show a steady increase, not fluctuate up and down as much as they are?
As you can see from the TPS reading, I am at WOT, yet if you look at the RPM numbers, they are all over the place. Shouldn't the numbers show a steady increase, not fluctuate up and down as much as they are?
As far as the Zt-2 I *LOVE* mine. Why? Because it does everything I want it to do for the right price. I connected the analog out to my profec e-01 to display the output and I run the loggin software on my PC mounted inside the car w/ a touch screen. The analog out IS linear from 9:1 -14.7:1 it took me a little tweaking of the conversion in the e-01 but I got it dead on with the value from the software on my PC.
Chris, i'll try to export that data for you. But I'm going to the track directly after work tonight so I won't see the Z until later tonight.
Originally posted by etx
You got a loose wire for sure man. Your e-manage could be getting a bunk signal as well, and that could cause it to not fuel properly. If you load up the software and watch the RPM readout does it jump in the graph? I had a loose wire on the greddy rpm adapter and it looked like it was missing little chunks. Regardless, check your wiring.
You got a loose wire for sure man. Your e-manage could be getting a bunk signal as well, and that could cause it to not fuel properly. If you load up the software and watch the RPM readout does it jump in the graph? I had a loose wire on the greddy rpm adapter and it looked like it was missing little chunks. Regardless, check your wiring.
I have noticed that the eManage Support tool shows similar RPM readings, but it does the map trace just fine.
-Chris
Originally posted by CaneZMD
I would try that Chris. Mine is really steady and doesn't jump. I'll try that export thing, I didn't know you could do that. I'll give it a shot.
I would try that Chris. Mine is really steady and doesn't jump. I'll try that export thing, I didn't know you could do that. I'll give it a shot.
-Chris
I'm trying to do it now, how do I do it? I tried save as and the only option it gives me is save as zto file. I tried "copy to clipboard, but it copies the screen shot, not the values.
Originally posted by CaneZMD
I'm trying to do it now, how do I do it? I tried save as and the only option it gives me is save as zto file. I tried "copy to clipboard, but it copies the screen shot, not the values.
I'm trying to do it now, how do I do it? I tried save as and the only option it gives me is save as zto file. I tried "copy to clipboard, but it copies the screen shot, not the values.
Once you install that version, it has an "export" option under "file" and you can save it as a .csv file.
-Chris
Alright Chris, Here is a small section of Data points:
AFR RPM Boost TPS
13.2 2162 0.4 83
13.1 2162 0.4 83
12.9 2175 0.3 84
12.8 2175 0.4 84
12.6 2175 0.4 84
12.5 2175 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.3 2236 0.5 84
12.2 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12 2288 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
AFR RPM Boost TPS
13.2 2162 0.4 83
13.1 2162 0.4 83
12.9 2175 0.3 84
12.8 2175 0.4 84
12.6 2175 0.4 84
12.5 2175 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.3 2236 0.5 84
12.2 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12 2288 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
Originally posted by CaneZMD
Alright Chris, Here is a small section of Data points:
AFR RPM Boost TPS
13.2 2162 0.4 83
13.1 2162 0.4 83
12.9 2175 0.3 84
12.8 2175 0.4 84
12.6 2175 0.4 84
12.5 2175 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.3 2236 0.5 84
12.2 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12 2288 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
Alright Chris, Here is a small section of Data points:
AFR RPM Boost TPS
13.2 2162 0.4 83
13.1 2162 0.4 83
12.9 2175 0.3 84
12.8 2175 0.4 84
12.6 2175 0.4 84
12.5 2175 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.4 2236 0.4 83
12.3 2236 0.5 84
12.2 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12.1 2288 0.5 83
12 2288 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2352 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
11.9 2393 0.6 83
I assume that you have the Zeitronix RPM wire hooked to Pin #62 of the ECU? I guess I'll be switching the wire tonight and see what I get for a reading.
-Chris
Well, Pin#62 did the trick! Thanks guys!
Here's an Excel graph of what my current A/F looks like at WOT based on the data logged by the Zeitronix (3rd gear run).
The green line is what I am shooting for when I tune the eManage unit.
Here's an Excel graph of what my current A/F looks like at WOT based on the data logged by the Zeitronix (3rd gear run).
The green line is what I am shooting for when I tune the eManage unit.
Last edited by ChrisMCagle; Sep 10, 2004 at 11:05 AM.


