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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Fellas,

We gots some new number ladies and gentlemen. Many thanks to Mark and the guys at SGP Racing, you guys rock.

Well, here it is:



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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Very cool man! You make me want to build my motor up!
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Hey Kudos,

I have a question, did you notice any power loss or any kind of loss? Did you buy low compression pistons? I am in the process of getting my engine installed now and I want to know what pro's and cons I can expect. Can anyone here answer that ? please....

HOLLA!!
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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what changes did you make from your last dyno?
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:18 AM
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Originally posted by 03_ppw350z
what changes did you make from your last dyno?
JIC Y-Pipe, and a bad a%& tune dude. Mark tells me the A/F is steady at 11.6 with plenty of fuel left to go further.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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I'm wondering why the torque curve drops off after 5200 RPM. It seems like the cams would help that situation and allow the engine to breath better at higher RPM.

Also.. maybe this is the combo of the cams and lower compression, but.. don't alot of the cars with stock internals spool up in the ~3000 RPM range? This dyno looks like the engine isn't hitting its stride until around 4000+ RPM.

still.. amazing power. very impressive.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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my car has a built engine and it spools slower now that i lowered the compression
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 12:54 PM
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I've never driven a turbo car, but it looks like it would be hard to control the throttle with your torque curve going near vertical in the 4000rpm range. NA cars have exponential increase in torque too but it usually plateaus at a low enough rpm that up or down shifts won't have you fall into that exponential range. Plus, NA cars don't make near as much power. Just seems like you would have to be VERY careful coming out of a corner, depending on what RPM you're at.

Maybe this is your drag racing only boost setting?

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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Insane top end power... I am a little surprised at how low the low-end is... didn't think the lag would be that big...

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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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The lag everybody's talking about is just load simulated by the dyno, it just needs to be reconfigured.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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I hope you'll pardon a dumb question... Your avatar says that you live in Qatar but your car is in Houston. Is that correct? If so, aren't you getting pretty anxious to get it?

I ask because I'm looking into doing an engine rebuild and it seems like SGP has had your car for a LOOOONG time.

Again, forgive me if I'm confused.

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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 02:35 PM
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Holy crap that's awesome! Great numbers man!
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 02:59 PM
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I was thinking the same thing on the trq. On SGP's last dyno, I believe they used a dynojet and the trq was well over 300lbs at 3000rpm. This dyno graph using the dynapack looks totally different.

Personally, I like the dynojet. You are moving a known mass, and so there is really no calibration needed, other than ambient conditions..temp...air pressure...humidity...etc.

Also, dynopacks typically read higher than dynojets...so this is probably closer to 600whp on a dynojet.

Either way man...GREAT numbers. So when do you actually get your car back so you can DRIVE it.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Originally posted by 03_ppw350z
my car has a built engine and it spools slower now that i lowered the compression
How much slower?
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by 03_ppw350z
my car has a built engine and it spools slower now that i lowered the compression
If you have a 6MT , you will eventually need a better clutch to handle that extra power when you turn up the boost. You should consider a lighter Fylwheel, it will help offset what you lost in bottom end when lowering the CR. So indirectly it will spool faster.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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OK, so with a built 8.5:1, when are you going to turn it up to 20 on pump? It should not have a problem with it. <shrug> EVO's can run 19~21 on their 50-state cars (91 Cali fuel) with 8.8:1.
GREAT numbers.
Any headwork? Oversized valves, etc.?
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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based on the dyno in this thread as well as a handful of others I found around the forum, I created a spreadsheet comparing various setups in a consolidated set of dyno graphs.

The thread is here:

https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....threadid=93603
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by G3po
If you have a 6MT , you will eventually need a better clutch to handle that extra power when you turn up the boost. You should consider a lighter Fylwheel, it will help offset what you lost in bottom end when lowering the CR. So indirectly it will spool faster.
I doubt the stock clutch will last more then a day! You have to test out all that new power ya know?

Also just subcribing to the thread. My friend is looking into doing a simular build but with the APS kit instead of Greddy and I just want to stay updated.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:14 PM
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I doubt the stock clutch will last more then a day! You have to test out all that new power ya know?

Also just subcribing to the thread. My friend is looking into doing a simular build but with the APS kit instead of Greddy and I just want to stay updated.
Same consideration here. Forged internals and APS (G rather than Z though). My biggest debate at the moment is CAMs to be or not , if so which one. Most likely JWT S1.
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Old Sep 29, 2004 | 04:25 PM
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Well if your going to spend all this money you might as well go all out. The poster of this thread is running tomei cams and as far as I know they are more agressive then JWT but still compleatlly driveable. Mark at SPG also said they are fairly agressive when my friend called them.

MMMM nice loapy idle, the sound of a turbo, and the rush of 600 rwhp... I'll go and keep dreaming now.
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