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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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ok guys...so i have placed an order for the 35th anniv. edition 350Z..i will be recieving it in the early days of Jan..i am planning to put the TT kit right ahead.
i live in dubai,U.A.E...where it gets hot at times..
after extensive research..i have concluded that the APS would be the most appropriate kit for middle eastern weather conditions.
However..i am not very well experienced with forced induction...

so could you guys please help me to do my shopping...
first of all i need a website where i can get all the gadgets and turbo kit from.
secondly..i want someone ..(preferebly with an APS kit) to advise me on what to get along with the kit..all the accesories..including the fuel system and everything (gauges, wires, boost controller..etc.)
i want everything inorder to have a very reliable daily driver.

all your help and suggestions are highly appreciated..

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moose
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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If your going to go forced induction, Forged connecting rods and Forged pistons are a must. I'm going with the APS sometime next year and I'm going to have the bottom end built at the same time as the APS install. From what I'm seeing, the install is easier with pulling the motor. So, ya might as well do everything at once. It will save you the expense of going back later to replace a bent rod or cooked piston/ring. I'd only look at low compression pistons 8.5:1 or so. I'm sure it gets hot as hell where you are so I'd have to go with a vented hood, something like the top secret kit. A bigger radiator, stillen has a nice one, a larger oil cooler, stillen too. I'd think about the APS oil pan with the cooling fins as well. Oh, and only use synthetic oil once you go turbo. Of all this stuff the pistons and rods are the most important. The lower compression will give you some room for error in your tuneing.
As far as guages go, I'd say A/F, boost and perhaps an EGT exhaust gas temp are all you need. I haven't looked into the fuel system too much yet, but if you'r going to go over the preset boost level, you'll want to go with a larger fuel pump, not just an inline one. Not a real expert on boost conrollers, YET. Oh, but the biggest thing I'd be worried about is the install and tuning shop. It doesn't matter what you put on your car, if the tune is bad, you'll kill that great VQ of your's.
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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it will be tuned at a private garage owned by a 12 time winner of the world rally challenge: Mohammed Bin Sullayyem. so the tunning isnt what i am really worrying about..he is a dealler for garrett turbos in dubai.he has built so many supras and STi's and evo's...as well as a couple of maximas..

is there a site where i could educate/order myself some rods and pistons?

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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by DXB350Z

it will be tuned at a private garage owned by a 12 time winner of the world rally challenge: Mohammed Bin Sullayyem. so the tunning isnt what i am really worrying about..he is a dealler for garrett turbos in dubai.he has built so many supras and STi's and evo's...as well as a couple of maximas..

is there a site where i could educate/order myself some rods and pistons?

Thanks again

moose
Moose,

We do a ton of business to the guys in Dubai, Saudi, Qatar, etc... Ask around and I am sure our name will come up. If you have any questions about options for your Z shoot me an email @ sales@sgpracing.com. You can also check out some of the things we have to offer at:

www.sgpracing.com

We will take care of you
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Old Nov 11, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by DXB350Z

i live in dubai,U.A.E...where it gets hot at times..
after extensive research..i have concluded that the APS would be the most appropriate kit for middle eastern weather conditions.
However..i am not very well experienced with forced induction...

Moose,

If you're in Dubai you should look up a friend of mine (an aussie named Ivan Ingrilli) he is an awesome mechanic and used to work at Bin sullyyem some years back (I know Mo very well also as APS/Safari used to sell our turbo systems via Mo many years back) and I believe Ivan now works for another tuning business.

I've known Ivan for many years, he started with motec back in the early days when we did (about 1984) and he is by far the most knowledgeable mechanic and engine management tuner in the mid east imo.............by far.

let me know if you can't track Ivan down as I'm sure I can find his contact details fo you.

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Hello Moose

Great choice of Model, the 35th Anniv.

You may want to send a P.M. to GQ_626
Sharif used to live in Pasadena, Calif
Now lives in Charlotte North Carolina
His SuperBlack Greddy Twin Turbo is quite a car.
Sharif has good technical experience, and knowlege of proper engine monitoring gauges. He can point you to "Best Buy's" on
special parts required.

Also he would not be opposed to travel in your country. As
he is adventurous.

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Originally posted by DXB350Z
ok guys...so i have placed an order for the 35th anniv. edition 350Z..i will be recieving it in the early days of Jan..i am planning to put the TT kit right ahead.
i live in dubai,U.A.E...where it gets hot at times..
after extensive research..i have concluded that the APS would be the most appropriate kit for middle eastern weather conditions.
However..i am not very well experienced with forced induction...

so could you guys please help me to do my shopping...
first of all i need a website where i can get all the gadgets and turbo kit from.
secondly..i want someone ..(preferebly with an APS kit) to advise me on what to get along with the kit..all the accesories..including the fuel system and everything (gauges, wires, boost controller..etc.)
i want everything inorder to have a very reliable daily driver.

all your help and suggestions are highly appreciated..

regards.

moose
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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Now thats some good news...

Peter..if you could only tell me at what tuner exactly Ivan works..i could track him down...otherwise you are gonna have to look up his number for me..

guys i have a question which is teasing my brain at the moment..

do you guyz think i should build the engine while installing the kit..?? the thing is that i dont want to go over 450 hp for sure..and i wouldnt want to up the boost alot..although i have another car..but definately i will be driving this Z everyday of the week..moreover my other car (a very moded Jeep Wrangler) is not suitable for everyday driving now ..lol
and by the way..how much will it cost me to build the engine?

thanks alot and best regards,

Moose

p.s. Peter you can send me Ivans info to moosasaeed@gmail.com
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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and guyz...which would be the best exhaust system for the Z??

and in your opinion...what is the sexiest body kit??
i liked the greddy body kit at a very affordable price!!

thanks again.
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and guyz...which would be the best exhaust system for the Z??

and in your opinion...what is the sexiest body kit??
i liked the greddy body kit at a very affordable price!!

thanks again.
If your going with the APS TT kit why not match it up with their true dual exhaust? It sounds incredible.
In my opinion bodykits are a waste of money and only attact attention to your car. Althou if the body pannel has a function I am all for it. For example.

The G35 with FI needs a new front end to allow air flow for the intercooler.
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ok guys..i am finalizing a list (aka BILL... lol) for the parts i am planning to order..
all prices are from the www.sgpracing.com website...
so anyone who can offer a better price...BE MY GUEST

as i said previously..you can email me to moosasaeed@gmail.com

here goes the list:

APS twin turbo kit $7450
APS high volume intake plenum $395
APS High Volume Oil Pan $395
APS 2.5" High Flow Dual Exhaust $1290

SGP Racing 8.5:1 Forged piston Set $1175
SGP Racing / ARP Head and Main Studs $449
Pauter Forged Rod Set $1175

GREDDY E-O1 Boost Controller $544
DEFI BF Boost Meter $235
DEFI BF Exhaust Temp Meter $260
DEFI Link Controller II $115
DEFI Link Display $297
DEFI Display Exhaust Temp Sensor $207

Power Enterprises 2 Row Aluminum Radiator $560

Total should be: $14547


now...is there anything missing in this list to end up with a very reliable everyday car(how much can i up the boost before blowing the engine)(how much rwhp are we looking at at stock psi)? or better yet...is there anything that i dont really need?


thanks

Moose


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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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ok guys..i am finalizing a list (aka BILL... lol) for the parts i am planning to order..
Hi Moose,

You can knock some dollars off that. The APS High Volume Oil Pan is included with the APS Intercooled Twin Turbo System. Also, the boost control is also taken care of by the engine management system included with the TT system.

For a complet list of components included see http://www.**************/350z/install...stallation.htm

Sounds like you're going to build one heck of a Z!

George
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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well George..i dont know whether or not i should build the engine immidiatly...thats because i am getting the APS TT kit installed as soon as i cross that first 1000km break in...
so what do you guyz recommend?
however..i am the "do it all at once or never" type of guy.
so what dya think?

Moose

p.s. Would i be able to eliminate the RESTRICTOR-(BOOST CONTROL) that comes with the kit and use the GReddy internal one?

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talk to gq626 about pistons and rods...that's where i'll be buying them soon..send him a pm..suprised he hasnt chimed in on this yet...
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Originally posted by DXB350Z
well George..i dont know whether or not i should build the engine immidiatly...thats because i am getting the APS TT kit installed as soon as i cross that first 1000km break in...
so what do you guyz recommend?
however..i am the "do it all at once or never" type of guy.
so what dya think?

Moose

p.s. Would i be able to eliminate the RESTRICTOR-(BOOST CONTROL) that comes with the kit and use the GReddy internal one?
The decision depends upon how scared you really want to be. The monster torque and high power of the APS TT on a stock Z engine is quite an experience. That said, more is even better If you're open and honest about your requirements with the guys from SGP, then they will build it accordingly - they certainly have the experience in building quick Z's.

Regarding the boost controller; the programmabe electronic system included with the APS TT is a comprehensive unit that maps the boost pressure(s) throughout the RPM range. It is very versatile in that it can be programmed to tailor the boost pressure profile at each point in the RPM range - to match the requirements of the engine/drivetrain. For example set to X psi at low RPM, Y psi at mid range and Z psi at high RPM (with a few more in-between).

Hope this helps.

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How exactly is boost controled if no EBC is used?
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Originally posted by dansouliere
How exactly is boost controled if no EBC is used?
Physically boost pressure is controlled in a manner similar to popular EBC's but is part and parcel of the APS plug-in engine management computer included in the APS TT system.

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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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George...
if peter knows Mohammed Bin Sullayyem in Dubai..as well as Ivan..you might know them as well..so do you think with the mechanics available in Bin Sullayyems garage or even Ivan..they will be able to build my engine?
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Originally posted by APS
Physically boost pressure is controlled in a manner similar to popular EBC's but is part and parcel of the APS plug-in engine management computer included in the APS TT system.

George
Right I understand that much.. but when I say "how exactly" I mean is there an LCD screen that can display info that allows you add more boost and adjust maps on the fly?
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i dont think you can control it on the fly...i dont think so ?!!

APS..what would 0-60 be on a 350Z powered by the APS TT kit with stock boost~stock everything else????just curious

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It seems the performance of the 2003 Porsche 911TT is very simular to the 350z with the APSTT kit on stock boost. so 0-60 in about 4sec.

They both have very comparable 1/4mile times.
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