Beautiful Pics! Now I can't wait to get one... I have a polished Vortech and many other polished pieces... this IM will compliment it all perfectly.

I noticed this and probably should have jumped in sooner. Though it appears the dyno operator let up before using the dyno brake, it is easy to see the separation (gain) prior to that happening. At 6500rpm, both curves are still rising. It's shortly after that when the original dyno drops off. I'd say that is a good measuring point anyway as many people do not have a reflash to raise the rev limiter. At that point on the dyno provided, the gain still appears to be about 25-30hp. It is safe to assume, while probably not quite 55hp, that the gain continues to increase as you approach 7000rpm.

 

Are we going to have to get an ECU reflash to run this safely in NA applications? I want to wait to do my ECU for until I get cams (probably a little while off), will this intake lean out my AF ratio to the point of being unsafe?

 

As I stated in a previous post, Speed Dreams has done close to 80 pulls on my car since I installed the SC. Several pulls in excess of 7000 rpms. None of us knew what to expect from the Kinetix IM, not even lsdunique. I was doing simultaneous wideband recording on a lap top while dyno pull was being performed. The dyno operator taking it to WOT knew the capabilities of the car and max rpm capabilities. Dyno recording time was reached prior to max rpm.

 

is this part for sale yet?

john

 

As far as I know, it will only be available thru the GB at first.

 

"No harm" at all! Here are the three (3) pulls with the IM "Prototype". All three (3) pulls were performed in less than ten (10) minutes. The purpose was to get numbers, not tune. So, we probably experienced a little "heat soak" by the time pull #3 was performed. Delayed recording on pull #3 inorder to go to 7100+ rpms. I have also provide Zeitronix datalog pic of pull #1. Add 2.4 pounds to "Boost" displayed to correct for Bosch Wideband 02 Sensor value due to 5200 ft. elevation here in Albuquerque, NM. Actual boost 7 pounds.

 

Sweet...if it rocks...I hope you can make enough to not have them in back order for months!

 

Hmm what happend to the GB thread. I cant see it anymore.

 

Hahha, praying for 20rwhp

ravi

 

It is back under the Engine/drivetrain, etc forum. I couldnt post in it after it was moved.

 

I thaught the GB wasnt going to start until a the NA numbers where up???

 

Motordyne Plenum Spacer vs. Kinetix Intake Manifold

the 1/2 inch one is the way to go if you are going to get the motordyne plenum spacer. its the spacer designed for most power gains and an audible difference. if i get the motordyne spacer, i will get the crawford strut bar (i dont want that ugly hood STB)

so if you do the math, it is 200ish for the motordyne plenum spacer shipped + 170 for the crawford STB = 370. but then i figure if i am going to spend 370 on this, i might as well shell out another 300 and get the kinetix racing intake manifold, which should be priced around 650. i think me and you are looking at all the same performance mods. my car is bone stock, asides from aftermarket wheels and tires. i plan on sticking to a NA setup, because i just dont want to shell out 7000 for a turbo or supercharger installed.

so i figure....
1. kinetix intake manifold - 650
2. injen cai - used for 100, new for 200
3. injen super ses - new for 750, used for 500
4. kinetix HF cats (there is a gb on these and the new intake manifold) - 325
5. UR crank pulley and belts - used for 200, new 350

these parts are easy to install, so at a shop, install costs wont be too high (not 500 install like with headers). altering the upper and lower plenum is what allowed the 05 350z to make 300 hp. the kinetix intake manifold, although NA dynos arent out, i think it has potential to create a 20 hp gain when used with mods 2-5. this 20hp gain will be in addition to the power gained from mods 2-5, so i am thinking somewhere in the ballpark of 40-50 hp total with using these mods. if i am right, as the kinetix NA dyno will be released tomorrow, that is around a 20% gain in power for around 2000 bucks (if you buy the parts of the classifieds).

i dont know.. i might be rambling... but if those mods cant create a 30+ increase in hp, i will just get the motordyne spacer (1/2), crawford STB, jwt popcharger, some TD exhaust, and some HFC. i should be able to get all of that for around 1000. power gains should be around 20-30 hp, decent for the price. its times like this when i wish i had a supra tt.... if you invest 2500 into the 2jza engine... you would be throwing down more than 500 horses. truth is, if you dont go FI, you cant get any real power gains. hopefully the kinetix intake manifold dynos will prove me wrong

 

Those would be pretty optimistic numbers for NA, especially since many mods give decent gains, but at different points in the powerband.

We have been slightly delayed, so we hope to get the dyno numbers within a couple days, as we were hoping to have them done tomorrow (wednesday) but it looks like thats not going to happen.

Also, the manifold wont be 650 in the group buy, its going to priced more around 700. That is a serious piece of fabrication , and at 700 it is quite a deal considering how much work and welding is required.

 

Noooooooooo.... well, could you have Zach open the GB for all of us FI people ready to buy right now?

j/k... mcduck must remember... patience is a virtue... unfortunately, it is one he does not possess!

 

Waiting and hoping. I hope the delay is not too long.

 

Did you notice any change in your A/F numbers...for the good or bad? I have the same setup as you. Also, does the stock Vortech SC bolt right up to the new manifold?

 

I plan on doing a "Road Tune" now that I have the "New" IM installed. With the prototype I noticed that the A/F leaned out slightly at about 5500 rpms. i was a little rich in this area so it was for the better. If I could get into photobucket from this location, I would reattach, but go back and look and you should fine a post where I showed A/F.

It bolts right up to your current throttle body. So, NO problem bolting up to Vortech SC. Kinetix did an excellent with manufacturing. It should allow everyone using current TB to make the switch to this IM with NO problem. While I had everything removed installed PE 380 Injectors and returned by ECU to TS to reflash for the 380s. Prior to that they had flashed by ECU with "Limited Flash". If you have more questions, ASK!

 

I plan on doing a "Road Tune" now that I have the "New" IM installed. With the prototype I noticed that the A/F leaned out slightly at about 5500 rpms. I was a little rich in this area so it was for the BETTER. If I could get into photobucket from this location, I would reattach dyno graph, but go back and look and you should fine a post where I showed A/F.

It bolts right up to your current throttle body. So, NO problem bolting up to Vortech SC. Kinetix did an excellent with manufacturing. It should allow everyone using current TB to make the switch to this IM with NO problem. While I had everything removed installed PE 380 Injectors and returned by ECU to TS to reflash for the 380s. Prior to that they had flashed by ECU with "Limited Flash". If you have more questions, ASK!

 

This is going to look so sweet with my polished SC and polished (one off) Injen intake pipe!

 

What do you think my HP and TQ would be?

Injet CAI
Kinetic "NEW" IM
DC Sport Header
Kinetic HF Cat
Borla True-Duel

Will get TS ECU Reflash.

Thanks