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Old 07-27-2006, 05:04 PM
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what is that vibration rattle sound on decel when reving on the second video...is that the cats?
Old 07-27-2006, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LMG_35C
thanks... I know exactly what you mean about eliminating the CATS. My '71 340 Wedge Plymouth is long gone

I like the design of the UR CATS and am now trying to confirm fitment on my G35 Coupe. Z1 Performace says 350Z only and they told me they don't know anything about the G35 ????

I messaged UR but have not yet heard back. No one on G35 Driver has responded yet with thier experience either.

What made you buy these and not the Crawford or AAM / Other Brands?

...long live sunny sunday drives!

LMG
....not sure about G35 fitment. I hate to be the the first and find out the hard way that they rub or don't fit. It's not a 5 minute job to install. I've changed engines, rebuilt auto and manual transmissions and do know a little about working on cars and a cat install is not my definition of fun. If you could get your hands on a G35 OEM cat already removed and match to a Z OEM cat this could shed some light on fitment. I would think these are readily available....have two Z cats in my garage.

Key factors in my Ultimate Racing HFC decision were:
1) No reports anywhere of issues (cracking, fitment, blow-outs etc.)
2) 100% stainless vs. some brands are partial or aluminized
3) Warranted for 50,000 miles
4) Don't look aftermarket (stealth if you will)
5) OEM style mounting brackets
6) O2 sensor bung
7) Like the idea of better sound/HP without polluting
8) Expect that they will pass sniffer emission test
9) No CEL issues
10) "Reasonable" price
Old 07-27-2006, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JDM_ZED33
what is that vibration rattle sound on decel when reving on the second video...is that the cats?
your cheap speakers
Old 07-27-2006, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nizmoz
I have NISMO Headers and a full NISMO Cat Back Exhaust. Do you think UR HFC's would work with my set-up?
IMO they will unleash the potential of your exhaust/header mod's by allowing it to flow much better as the cat's tend to be the bottleneck, if you will, in the exhaust system. Will likely add some dbs to the sound level too.

If you do it, please let us know the results.
Old 07-27-2006, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary King
The channels per square inch you mention is the cell count. I'm not trying to steal your thread but, their is some very good technical info to be found at this Random Technology web page:

http://www.randomtechnology.com/technical.html

Hope that helps.

Gary
Thanks for the excellent link on cat technology. I almost forgot about the earlier bead technology. Also worth noting is that the story talked about the by products created and how stainless casings are used to avoid corrosion. Evidently some manufacturers are not aware of the corrosion potential? Beware if you are considering cat's that are not stainless steel.
Old 07-27-2006, 08:39 PM
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Glad you enjoyed the info. I too forgot about the bead technology, I can remember an uncle of mine emptying one out, a long time ago, from his 196? mustang in his garage and me asking what he was doing, he said "this will make my car faster."

Gary

Originally Posted by m1james@bellsou
Thanks for the excellent link on cat technology. I almost forgot about the earlier bead technology. Also worth noting is that the story talked about the by products created and how stainless casings are used to avoid corrosion. Evidently some manufacturers are not aware of the corrosion potential? Beware if you are considering cat's that are not stainless steel.
Old 07-27-2006, 10:58 PM
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Good research...Looks Good
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I just installed these and was dissappointed to find out that there is a metallic buzzing sound when under WOT between3-5k rpm's especially when the car is cold.
Old 11-16-2006, 02:07 PM
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sounds like your bracket is loose or your exhaust is loose and you are hearing the resonance.
Old 11-16-2006, 02:55 PM
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I don't know whether its "rasp" or the left cat vibrating against the heat shield. I've heard that there is only a small amount of clearance on the drivers side.
Old 11-16-2006, 02:56 PM
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I don' tthink its the exhaust cuz i didn't hear anything like it when the exhaust was installed. It started immediately after i got the cats installed.
Old 11-16-2006, 02:57 PM
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could you show me a picture of the "bracket" so i can check it?
Old 11-16-2006, 02:59 PM
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http://www.z1auto.com/prodmore.asp?m...ust&prodid=580

or could be the heatshield too...it is a close fit and bending it up slightly is a good idea.
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also.... why would it get better after the car warms up?
Old 11-16-2006, 04:10 PM
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is the bracket the thing connected to the cat with a bolt?
Old 11-16-2006, 10:09 PM
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How does the UR compare w/ the Crawford Cats. I havent heard of cracking problems on UR that the Crawfords have w/ the Nismo exhaust.
Old 11-17-2006, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by danielwebb
I just installed these and was dissappointed to find out that there is a metallic buzzing sound when under WOT between3-5k rpm's especially when the car is cold.

It is a close fit on the driver side. When I installed mine, I made it a point to hold the cat with pressure away from the floor board while I tightened it. There is just a bit of play caused by the diff in the stud diameter vs. the hole. You may be able to loosen then re-torque the way I just described.

I'm not sure if you installed yourself or had a shop do it. This is one of many reasons I don't take my car to a shop. In many cases the focus is on speed, not fitment or quality. If it's the only Z they've done they would have no knowledge of the potential problems.

Personally, I don't like the idea of hammering on the floor board of the car. If that's the only option I guess you have to but I don't like it myself.
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wouldn't what you're decribing cause it not to seal correctly?
Old 11-17-2006, 10:43 AM
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what if i just removed the heat shield?
Old 11-17-2006, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by danielwebb
wouldn't what you're decribing cause it not to seal correctly?
Not if you torque it properly. There isn't much "slop" in the holes but it may be enough. I saw a number of posts on the subject of the cat contacting the floor boards (various brands) so I took this precaution. If I didn't do it would I have had a problem? .....don't know.


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