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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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There must be ten brands of cat-delete/test pipes on the market. Therefore,
hundreds, maybe thousands of people must have test pipes. However, we
still have plenty of people unsuccessfully trying the non-fouler fix and getting
CELs.




Well, there is a solution, and it is clear as this picture...



Now, anyone without a degree in electrical engineering still confused?
Yeah, I'm confused.



Basically, what I'm getting at - we need a professional solution to O2
simulators. I don't want to gather $30 in parts, solder it up, and then solder
them into pin 74 & 55 on the ecu. I want to pay $75 for a proffesional
solution that just clips right in like this:



... and that's it!




It would be so simple. As you uninstall your catalytic converters, you simply
unplug your O2 sensors, plug in two O2 simulators, and install two O2 sensor
plugs into your new test pipes.



Now....AEM, HKS, whoever, get to work!

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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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I would pay $75 if they worked.

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Old Feb 4, 2007 | 07:29 PM
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I don't think people would choose this over the non fouler method which is much less expensive.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 01:11 PM
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The problem with the non-foulers is that it's not guaranteed to work, this is.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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http://www.o2simulator.com/6928.html try these
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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rocks have you tried these simulator out, I know a few people that have Universal O2 Sensor Simulator and half of them still have problems.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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I have these for about a year and half already. From Summit Racing part # cei-104052. Yes I did pay $97 with tax and wired them myself but haven't had one issue. They have if you don't already know a little blinking led light to see if working right so you can check on them. Mine are black though.

I spliced them in and wrap them up with electrical tape and then put some loom around them and then wraped it up, but I left the little section out so you could still see the light.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Man i love my helix and my no cel light
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VIZAGE
I have these for about a year and half already. From Summit Racing part # cei-104052. Yes I did pay $97 with tax and wired them myself but haven't had one issue. They have if you don't already know a little blinking led light to see if working right so you can check on them. Mine are black though.

I spliced them in and wrap them up with electrical tape and then put some loom around them and then wraped it up, but I left the little section out so you could still see the light.

Thanks for the info VIZAGE I will have to check them out.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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If you do get or before you do let me know. I have the wiring schematic for both banks I got from the dealer. I would have to go over them again for it's been awhile. Where in Atlanta are you? If you don't want to broadcast just PM me. I'm about fifty miles S. of Atlanta. If you need any help let me know. I own a lift (free of charge). But I live on a half mile dirt road.
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Old Feb 5, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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Thanks VIZAGE, I will PM you in a bit.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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I searched on summitracing.com and that part number wasn't available
I even checked out casper electronic's website. Couldn't find it there either
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 04:40 AM
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All i get when i search on Summitracing is the MIL for mustangs. They got it good, they already have a set that is plug & play.
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I'm not sure why the non foulers wouldn't work. Unless the directions weren't followed. Those secondary o2 sensors don't register A/F they only register temps. If for some reason the o2 sensor is touching the non-fouler that might throw a CEL. If you don't drill the correct size that will throw the CEL. If you accidently bang the o2 sensor on something, that will throw a CEL.

If you look at the percentage of non-foulers that worked compared to the ones that didn't work shows a install error.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 10:49 AM
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I use nonfoulers. Check engine light comes and goes for some reason. It kind of makes up its on mind of when it turns on and off. The 02 sim link i posted is the same thing you buy at summit for 100$. You just wire them up yourself and they say they will give your money back if they dont work. Cant hurt to try it for 30$
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Originally Posted by rocks
Check engine light comes and goes for some reason.
That's not supposed to happen.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 01:10 PM
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I have checked it over and over with a obd2 scanner and it gives me a rear o2 sensor error, so im pretty sure thats what its from.
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Originally Posted by Lawn Dart
I searched on summitracing.com and that part number wasn't available
I even checked out casper electronic's website. Couldn't find it there either

I had that problem when I bought them but I ended up finding. I got this number off my receipt. I don't know what to tell you.

I just called them and they said they don't carry them no more and were finally banned forever. So I guees I'm lucky then. I don't know what to tell you but try keep using the other methods. Maybe one of the Z shops will make them under the table, so someone step up.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 97supratt
I'm not sure why the non foulers wouldn't work. Unless the directions weren't followed. Those secondary o2 sensors don't register A/F they only register temps. If for some reason the o2 sensor is touching the non-fouler that might throw a CEL. If you don't drill the correct size that will throw the CEL. If you accidently bang the o2 sensor on something, that will throw a CEL.

If you look at the percentage of non-foulers that worked compared to the ones that didn't work shows a install error.
+1 This is your best option.
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Old Feb 6, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rocks
I have checked it over and over with a obd2 scanner and it gives me a rear o2 sensor error, so im pretty sure thats what its from.

you might have damaged one of the sensors. You might want to "actually" check it.
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