Hey everyone,
Need quick advice!!!
Should I take these headers for $675 shipped?
Polished DC Sports 350Z Stainless Steel Headers

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pric...tainless_Steel

Is this a REALLY good deal... or just a good deal?

The story:
So I got an email from horsepowerfreaks.com with their specials and found a set of POLISHED DC Sports Stainless Steel Headers for the Z, listed on clearance at $88.00. I don't keep up with prices much, but knew it was a good deal because the MSRP alone is $1,400 on these, and didn't see prices close to that on ebay for the similar DC headers. So I ordered 5 sets, knowing I could resell and turn some profit on ebay.
Well of course they realized they made a mistake on their pricing, and emailed me saying that they were supposed to be selling for $880 instead of $88. I didn't respond bc they said they would cancel my order automatically for me. Well they have been bugging the shiat out of me, calling and leaving messages for me to call them back. I got my last message tonight saying that they really want to sell me a pair of headers and bc of their mistake they will give me that set of headers for $675 with free shipping if I call them back by tomorrow. What should I do?

I'm a grad student so money isn't coming out of my ***... but I do have money to throw at a good deal when it arises.. I'm wondering first if this is worth it, and also if I can resell these on ebay for cost (or more) if I end up taking them off or never use them.

Basically what could I get for these on ebay right now? and what could I get for these on ebay 2 years from now after being used..

I've looked on ebay already and all there are no polished DC header auctions, only 1 store selling for over $900. All of the other DC headers are ceramic.. not stainless.

Do people even seek out the DC headers on ebay... or do they go for cheapies for a fraction of the price?

I'm no pro on these headers... What do I do?!!?

Thanks in advance everyone!

 

My Mods FYI

 

I got stainless steel strupps brand new for 450.

They are the same design and quality IMO

I think you can get a better deal. Hold off.

 

How about $445?

http://www.evasivemotorsports.com/Me...&Store_Code=EM.

 

Good find!

 

I dont think headers are worth the investment due to hard install for minimal power.

 

Those are the ceramic... the ones I'm talking about are the polished stainless...

 

Wont matter, polished stainless wont be shiny after the first weak anyways. The heat will turn it rusty colored. Save money, roll with what people know works, not the sales pitch someone is trying to get you hooked on.

 

Do you have them? You're wrong by the way.

 

^ Install is F'in hell on headers.

 

+1 ^^

 

Dang. I run Alphawerks Stainless Steel Headers, and they are blue. Next to impossible to reach and polish.

 

he happens to be right....

personally, they are not worth doing unless you also do cams, and the associated work, to make the most out of the setup as a whole

 

I installed my own and I think it was worth it. Headers are worthless without cams, test pipes are less worthwhile without headers, cat back is worthless without test pipes etc...so why do any mods at all. All I'm saying is everyone keeps saying that headers are worthless but most of the people who have installed them (especially those who did the install themselves) seem to think they are worthwhile...myself included. Most of the people spreading this idea don't even have headers.

 

well I have them (see my sig), installed them...hell I SELL them...and I still don't feel they are worth the investment in material, labor costs, or time, unless you are doing the cams and heads as well. YMMV

 

OK........... It was me but how many hp/tq did you gain? You did remember to dyno before and after right? There is only one person that I know of, that gained any resonable amount by doing headers. I had them on another VQ that I had and with this one......... forget it. Not wasting my time or money! Do what you will with your time and $ but to fly off on someone about them and not realize who he is, is................. well pretty funny to me.

 

I installed mine. And here is the before and after dyno make up your own mind.
I would do it over again....and no I did not have cams.

 

but we know from your previous posts that the headers were not the only thing you redyno'd with, nor is it clear if did you do it on the same day. I just don't like seeing people go down a particular road of mods and stock part on top of part seeking to achieve something "elusive". There are definitive ways to make NA power on these cars - headers are a key component to making true NA power, but by themselves, they are not an answer, nor even something I'd recommend. Given the stock lift and overlap of the stock cams coupled with the way stock heads flow, it would take a very different kind of header to truly make a difference. To date, I know of 1 such header (Crawford) and as good as it is, it's also a total pain to install. Again, I'm not saying that headers don't give a gain, they do. But the install is not simple, and on some designs (the better ones), it's nothing short of a royal PIA. So given those factors, I am personally of the opinion that they are not worth doing as a standalone mod.

 

Same dyno three days apart

The dyno run 5
outside temp 79
jwt popcharger
5/16th spacer
mild port and polish
nismo exhaust

The dyno run 8
temp 90
JWT popcharger
5/16th spacer
mild port and polish
headers
nismo exhaust

The only change was worse temps and the aem cai and headers. The aem is proven to dyno lower than the JWT popcharger. So I credit the HP and TQ to the headers. The charge is to great to say it is just a difference in 3 days.

 

and that's exactly my point

you changed headers, and ported and polished (even mild can have a significant change), and did it all on separate days (helps that its the same dyno, but still not a definitive answer as to "yes these worked". So, not exactly a standalone change, so who knows where your gains came from. I won't even consider the intake, as none of them are going to do anything dramatically different than another. I read what you paid for your headers and that you did the install yourself - at that point, it could very well be worth it for you. But for someone paying more traditional retail prices and then having to pay someone to install them, you can see where it gets very expensive for minimal gains at best, as a standalone mod