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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:49 PM
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ok i am stuck at a fork in the road what the question is that the aps 2.5 td compared to the bassani. which one will make the best of that low in mid range torque. 1. bassani has the x pipe vs the aps none 2. will the 2.5 inch piping make me loose power at low to mid rang tq? 3. is the x pipe really going to make a big difference in the volicity compared the aps that doesnt have a x pipe or h pipe.

i have done alot of research on the bassani and aps, they both seem likes really good td, but the thing is i plan to stay n/a for many years to come and i just want to keep that low to mid range tq good but yet get some of that nice high in power.

this is what keeps me from getting the bassani exhuast(read the whole thing and see what it clams, but yet im shur it not true, becuase we no how they lie to sell the product)http://www.z1motorsports.com/350_g35...oducts_id=2124 and to top it off i like the quality of which it looks to on the tips and the dual wall compared to the bassani single wall. if i have not made anything clear i will be gladly to clear it up for you
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 10:55 PM
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Will it make a difference which one you get since you won't feel any power gain/loss at the seat? Aren't you just wasting your time tripping over a few horsepower that is completely negligible? Unless you have major plans to go FI or something, why are you deliberating between two different exhausts that give you just about the same horsepower gains? If I told you that the Nismo gives you 5 more whp in the mid-range compared to those, will you quickly change your mind and purchase that instead?
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no becuase i have done my research and the nismo is just basicly just for sounds honestly. and two i like having fun. and when the warrenty goes out im planning to do a some what a n/a built motor so ya in the long run this will save me time and money. im just really wondering if that x pipe really helps or not. as you can see i have done my research by what i said when i started this.





o and by the way how are the nismo and bhfc working out for ya?? any cracking issues yet??? i was thinking about going that way to but dont want to deal with parts breaking down on me. it just me but also sound to is another factor. the way im going with my car is that more exotic sound and look. so ya i no the bassani is mucle car exhaust.

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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 11:14 PM
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do you even know the function of the X pipe?

and as far as your nismo comment, you have no idea what you are talking about.

what other mods do you have?
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Old Jul 25, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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right now none exept for audio. and ya basicly, i mean ya you get something you have to, why would nismo put out a part like that that wouldnt give you any real gain. but just ya, anways i just want a striaght up answer thats all. all you guys do on hear is say mean things, if you dont have anything nice to say please just keep it to your self. and who knows i could be wrong on the nismo exhuast.
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hellsoldiers08
right now none exept for audio. and ya basicly, i mean ya you get something you have to, why would nismo put out a part like that that wouldnt give you any real gain. but just ya, anways i just want a striaght up answer thats all. all you guys do on hear is say mean things, if you dont have anything nice to say please just keep it to your self. and who knows i could be wrong on the nismo exhuast.
it may seem mean but the point here is to stop to spread of misinformation. you are wrong about the nismo exhaust, it is not just "for the sounds". each particular part that is out there has an intended application, with strengths and weaknesses in particular areas.

for example, in your situation, you are running a bone stock vq with a true dual exhaust. if you were to dyno your car you would find that you have lost torque throughout your entire power band, therefore making your car slower. you are simply not pushing enough air through your engine to require a bigger outlet, all that you are doing is reducing the efficiency of the flow and reducing your output. in fact, you would do better with the nismo exhaust . breathing mods need to be complimented in order to provide good flow.

however, being that your plan is to build a strong n/a setup, i would suggest the following. first of all, a true dual is not required unless you are planning on doing some serious work to your engine. the exhaust you have now is completely unnecessary and will be less efficient than your other options. if you are really interested in building a strong n/a setup than you should go with the bassani, the smaller diameter piping will suit your needs. start with a better intake; it can be debated which is "best" but you will find that most yield similar results. i am partial to the nismo cai, and it works great for my particular purpose, as well as far my ultimate goal. it breathes well, maintains good intake charge temperature and reduces the amount of heat soak when compared to other intakes (personal observation with an infrared thermometer). if you live somewhere where it rains a lot and there is flooding/large puddles, you should stick with a short ram design to prevent hydrolock, but that is a whole other debate. i digress, would running a 2.25" exhaust be more efficient then your current setup as well as your ending plan? yes.

bassani is on group buy right now on this forum. $890 shipped. go for it, if i had the money, i would.
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it may seem mean but the point here is to stop to spread of misinformation. you are wrong about the nismo exhaust, it is not just "for the sounds". each particular part that is out there has an intended application, with strengths and weaknesses in particular areas.

for example, in your situation, you are running a bone stock vq with a true dual exhaust. if you were to dyno your car you would find that you have lost torque throughout your entire power band, therefore making your car slower. you are simply not pushing enough air through your engine to require a bigger outlet, all that you are doing is reducing the efficiency of the flow and reducing your output. in fact, you would do better with the nismo exhaust . breathing mods need to be complimented in order to provide good flow.

however, being that your plan is to build a strong n/a setup, i would suggest the following. first of all, a true dual is not required unless you are planning on doing some serious work to your engine. the exhaust you have now is completely unnecessary and will be less efficient than your other options. if you are really interested in building a strong n/a setup than you should go with the bassani, the smaller diameter piping will suit your needs. start with a better intake; it can be debated which is "best" but you will find that most yield similar results. i am partial to the nismo cai, and it works great for my particular purpose, as well as far my ultimate goal. it breathes well, maintains good intake charge temperature and reduces the amount of heat soak when compared to other intakes (personal observation with an infrared thermometer). if you live somewhere where it rains a lot and there is flooding/large puddles, you should stick with a short ram design to prevent hydrolock, but that is a whole other debate. i digress, would running a 2.25" exhaust be more efficient then your current setup as well as your ending plan? yes.

bassani is on group buy right now on this forum. $890 shipped. go for it, if i had the money, i would.

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ya, i saw that and what is what i plan to do. but i saw the aps and idk the only thing bassani has on it is x pipe and 2.25 inch piping and another thing aps has the two pips connected to a daul input on the muffler mean there is were your going to get that i gues back presure or volicity is were you need it at ,as people were telling me tonight. and plus if you read more acctualy cold air or ram is pointless with our cars becuase the heat is what kills it. sry but do your home work in that area. by the way are stock box right now is really good and alot of people recommend doing the k&n filter drop in it. i think there is a thread on this forum floating around. LOOK IT UP. and plus my brother has the invida n1 exhaust 2.5 and you can most deffently feel the gain. but ya your just a bias person who wants people to go with nismo. and frankly i like the nismo but the stuff your saying, I just cant belive it fully a 100% and yes i no that what my brother has is from the why pipe and back not a td system.
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ya, i saw that and what is what i plan to do. but i saw the aps and idk the only thing bassani has on it is x pipe and 2.25 inch piping and another thing aps has the two pips connected to a daul input on the muffler mean there is were your going to get that i gues back presure or volicity is were you need it at ,as people were telling me tonight. and plus if you read more "actually" cold air or ram is pointless with our cars becuase the heat is what kills it. sry but do your home work in that area. by the way are stock box right now is really good and alot of people recommend doing the k&n filter drop in it. i think there is a thread on this forum floating around. LOOK IT UP. and plus my brother has the invida n1 exhaust 2.5 and you can most deffently feel the gain. but ya your just a bias person who wants people to go with nismo. and frankly i like the nismo but the stuff your saying, I just cant belive it fully a 100% and yes i no that what my brother has is from the why pipe and back not a td system.
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Originally Posted by hellsoldiers08
o and by the way how are the nismo and bhfc working out for ya?? any cracking issues yet??? i was thinking about going that way to but dont want to deal with parts breaking down on me. it just me but also sound to is another factor. the way im going with my car is that more exotic sound and look. so ya i no the bassani is mucle car exhaust.
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idk all i want is a striaght up answer
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ya, i saw that and what is what i plan to do. but i saw the aps and idk the only thing bassani has on it is x pipe and 2.25 inch piping and another thing aps has the two pips connected to a daul input on the muffler mean there is were your going to get that i gues back presure or volicity is were you need it at ,as people were telling me tonight. and plus if you read more "actually" cold air or ram is pointless with our cars becuase the heat is what kills it. sry but do your home work in that area. by the way are stock box right now is really good and alot of people recommend doing the k&n filter drop in it. i think there is a thread on this forum floating around. LOOK IT UP. and plus my brother has the invida n1 exhaust 2.5 and you can most deffently feel the gain. but ya your just a bias person who wants people to go with nismo. and frankly i like the nismo but the stuff your saying, I just cant belive it fully a 100% and yes i no that what my brother has is from the why pipe and back not a td system.
thats it... im just a biased person who wants you to buy nismo produts...

what exactly dont you believe about what i am saying?
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 11:32 AM
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if you really want the most you can get from your exhaust on a N/A set-up then you should really be looking into a single exit exhaust
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Old Jul 26, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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If you want to upgrade your exhaust to gain more Hp and Tq; Why not just use that money for a decent nitrous setup with a 75-100 shot. If you just want the exhaust for sound get whatever you like.
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Ive had the APS 2.5TD and the SVRTech X pipe exhaust. If i was to do it all over again, I'd stick with the APS 2.5TD with HFC. It sounded good, it was quiet enough for daily driving with HFC and it was a great fit. They both gave similar power gains, and unless you are pushing 550+ rwhp, the APS 2.5'' will suite almost every thing you throw at it.
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well if you can find me a good exhuast with the single to dual tip out put then ill look into it then
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well if you can find me a good exhuast with the single to dual tip out put then ill look into it then
Nismo, Tanabe exhausts, plenty to choose from.

A single exit is one that is single piping from the y-pipe back.

A true dual is one that is separate piping from the cats back.

Then you have the exhausts in between, which are just like the stock design. They have a y-pipe that conjoins the separate pipes and then they split up once they get to the separate exhaust tips. Not a true dual, and not a true single exit.
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ya i have heard the ones you listed long time ago. the nismo i kinda like, the other one not really want im looking for. i want something that your going to beable to tell once you start it up that its not stock but either way it doesnt matter i no what im getting now
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