[iam thinking of buying my 1 st mod
since the jwt pop charger seems the way to go iam going to order
it,and a max grounding kit to go. I am a bit nervous about the kinetix plastic plenum and free flow cats ,but they are on sale right now and need some comforting has any one posted some detailed install directions? and does any one know any thing about this company? i know random tech sell free flowing cats as well any feed back much appreiate!

 

From all I can tell LSD Unique is a stand up company, by that I mean they appear be be standing behind their products. The cats seem to be OK from all accounts I've read, but the plenum is another story. All sorts of problems, but because the company seems to be very understanding, every one seems happy. the early adaptors don't seem to mind being guinea pigs, and suffering with all sorts of problems. They seem very happy to help the company out while they try and get out a decent plenum. IMO, from all the traffic I've seen, they are not there yet. The only plenum that is bullet proof, and works is the Crawford. The new v5, is a work of art. It is aluminum (made from the original core) and not plastic. BTW, Crawford also makes a very good set of cats.

Thius is JMO, and I'm sure I will get flammed for what I just said. But as I said, It is and will remain my opinion.

Lou

 

First of all, I would not say that the Crawford product works as well as people might hope. I have a little evidence of this but it is DEFINITLEY not conclusive (so Crawford people should not get up in arms). Want to chime in, 350trackz? Also, the problems with the Kinetix were with the first 20 (or less) sold. The manufacturing process has been revamped to include a couple of extra things to prevent cracking due to overtorquing bolts during install and a clogged coolant tube. This has been addressed and it is no longer an issue. Kintetix immediatley recognized the problems and set forth a viable solution. That is what is important. You simply will not experience these early issues if you place your order now. Also, you will spend 360 on the Kintetix, keep your stock plenum (for future use or sale), and keep your stock strut tower bar. The competition is 395-1100, requires you to ship them your stock plenum, and if you want the benefits of a strut tower bar, requires you to purchase a relocated one (200). Overall, the price difference is quite large.

Please, nothing in this post is meant to start a debate between Crawford and Kinetix. For information regarding that, please use the search and read about all the debate between the two. Nothing I have posted is untrue, just the facts. NOT a debate!!

 

How can you make a post like that and not expect people/crawford owners to not get up in arms about it. Crawford stands by there products. Personaly I dont like the plastic idea.. Im sure others dont either. But that is just an opinion.

All I got to say is look who came up with the idea first... All the evidence I need is in the butt dyno and at the track.. Im sold as others are 2..

 

Although I have neither the Crawford or Kinetix plenum, I plan on having one or the other within a few weeks. After reading comparisons, debates, bickering, etc. on these forums I'm trying to get closer to a decision. To me, what it boils down to is this - looks, dollars spent, and longevity. Both plenums have their positive points - we all know them...no need to repeat here. From what I've seen, the performance #'s are similar. I like the idea of being able to keep the stock strut support & engine cover (I have painted covers)....and I also like the idea of going with an aluminum constructed item and the fact that the Crawford has been out there for a while (regardless of here & there debates over it's +'s and/or -'s). I think I'll be happy with either one - maybe I'll just flip a coin....or see if Crawford will talk me into theirs when I go down for their headers & cats install next week - ha!

Just my thoughts....and thanks to everyone voicing their opinions! It does help.........

 

First of all, what do you mean "a post like that?" I expect a little maturity to have grown out of all the arguments that have previously taken place that hopefully provides us with a little tolerance of other viewpoints and experiences. That's all. People on here like to get crazy mad when someone disagrees with them. It's all been done before. Also, what I was refering to earlier is directly related to butt dyno/track performance. We will see if the challenger tells his story. Personally, Saturday afternoon I became extremely happy with my Kinetix/XERD combo. I'll just say that.

BTW, the idea was not Crawford's but more like common sense. Every car from Mustang to Camaro, to old school muscle, to other imports have intake mods from the filter to the heads. Hardly groundbreaking, but kudos to Crawford for being the first ones off their butts to bring it to market. First doesn't always equal most HP. Although the shiny one IS pretty.

 

Simply stated, NOT my reality.

From the moment that last bolt was torqued on my Crawford pleneum to the first time I planted the throttle and kissed the rev limiter, I knew. I knew that every penny I had just spend on that $500 pleneum (now $395) was worth it. I got all the gains, and exactly where they were promised. No other mod to date, except maybe my custom exhaust has equated the dollar to to benefit ratio so well. I am compleatly, unadulterated,.....thrilled.

 

I know they wernt first EVER to do it but as far a the Z and G they were. Basicly the 2 have the same idea.. Raise the front of the plenum to get more air.. Kudos to Kinetix for making the stock strut brace fit and alowing to keep the OEM one. Great idea. I think it is personal opinion.. Either way you cant go wrong. Im very happy with the mod and my butt dyno says the same.. I dont have any real track proof that my car made more power as it was my first times there ever and by the time I got used to it, it was like 40 out and traction was a problem.

How were you happy about your combo? Dyno/track? Let us know your results. I like the whole xerd idea but the raspy problem is just one that I dont want to deal with..

 

I am def. not saying that the Crawford does not make power because it most obviously does. I am just saying that other packages may make more. Or, in fact, do make more. Albeit, they may not look as nice, but we are all after different goals in the long run. I am just talking a little trash to 350trackZ (#2 on NA list) who has Crawford products. We had a little fun this weekend while he was in town for the car show. Where are you man??

 

FlybyZ: Obviously your opinion is a little bias, we can all see that from your posts.

 

What was the question again?

 

If you are referring to all of my posts I must beg to differ but also say that you have been doing a lot of reading. Traditionally, my posts are quite neutral with respect to products offered. If you are refering to my posts in this thread then, yes, they are biased, as I am trying to get someone in particular to bite.

 

He wanted to know what color to paint the inside of his rims.

 

lol!!

I thought it was something like that. How about Hot Pink?

 

Did he get pulled again? I say again, but I have no evidence that it ever happened the first time . . .just stories. Phoenix care to jump in?

 

Me driving Doug's STOCK `04.

Mike driving his black cam'd beast.

Me pulling bus lengths ...

Me teaching lesson 101 on "How to properly win a race..."

Regardless we still love our Mike!!!!

 

Bus lengths? This story gets better with age . . .kinda like the last time I went fishing.

 

Exactly!

I'll de-pluralize the lengths... and say 1 length should describe the race enough.

 

Well, he was the one challenging....

 

i want to thank everyone for their opinions and comments i wasn't aware the crawford was a good option for me that's
why you gotta the dialog here. looks like i got more research
to do thanks and look forward to future posts.