What is up with a 3 year warranty on such a costly car? The Audi TT comes with a 5 year no maintenance warranty. They take care of EVERYTHING for you except put the gas in your car. The new Z convertible with it's price tag of $38k to 44k has this same 3 year warranty. What a joke. After reading this forum I am beginning to understand that Nissan would lose money if they warrantied the car for more than 3 years. Guess I will be buying a TT. They horsepower is not as high but they are definitely built heavier and sturdier. Must be a German thing!

 

The TT needs a 5 year warranty. Lets see now, TT vs zcar - the TT is more expensive, perforns worse than the z and has a miserable history when it comes to reliability - in other words the z is inexpensive, performs exceptionally well and Nissan historically has a great reliablity.

You are %100 right - it is a German thing! Over priced and problematic - you do get a nice fancy badge though.

 

What are you talking about. I have a TT and it has been great! It costs less than the Nissan, about 4 grand for the convertible. It doesn't have cheap plastic parts in the cabin. Did you read about the problems people are having with the Z in this forum. Transmission, engine lights, rattling. What's up with that? Most Nissans (not the Altima piece of crap) perform very well like the Maxima but this new body style needs alot of work mechanically. I think you have the Audi confused with BMW. Both are German but the Audi is virtually maintenance free. It drives like a dream too! Do you have a new Z?

 

http://caranddriver.com/article.asp?...rticle_id=3844

 

From your first post,
Then the same day you write in another post.
If you wish to start some smack, you have keep your story straight!

Jeez!

 

I have the coupe, I meant I want to get a TT Roadster. I was just comparing the two. The Z bodystyle is a Porsche rip-off but with the Porsche you can still get a sunroof. I love Japanese cars as much as German, I just feel when it comes to cosmetic detailing, the German cars are superior.

 

sooo the obvious questoin...

wtf are you doing on this forum?

indulf

 

...especially in the problems/maintenance section.

I think I smell a troll.

This thread in no way contributes to the worth of the forum...

 

Just thought I should inform all Nissan owners that they are not get the value of their dollar by purchasing cars with such a lame warranty. It's not like Nissans are cheap? Ford warranties their cars for just as long and they are well know for engine fires, poor transmissions and peeling paint. Maybe with the convertible price tag going up Nissan will raise their warranty too.

 

Thanks for informing me. See ya.

 

I think I should just inform you that you're not informing us of anything we haven't consciously decided to accept. Your comparision isn't helpful or purposeful. Stating an opinion that's bound to be contrary to almost every Z owner's opinion on this board in such a manner as yours isn't helpful either. You obviously like your Audi and you don't like the Z's warranty (or the Z, as can be inferred), so why bother posting?

You're clearly not being helpful and there must be something in it for you. So far, the only thing I can see you getting is a flame war and I certainly hope that's not your aim here.

 

Hahahaha... I read the Audi TT forum in Audiworld.com all the time, and I definitely see MANY more unhappy owners over there than on the 350Z forum.

Believe me when I say that Audi has NOT worked the bugs out of those TTs even after 4 years of trying.

German reliability does not compare to Japanese reliability. There's no denying that.

 

marquesalan: It seems like you're just trolling here. Having fun w/your TTs. Take a look at Consumer Reports April auto issue. The TT has gotten HORRIBLE reliability ratings. The warranty on Audis BTW is 4 years, not 5.

 

40% of Z owners are having tranny problems I wouldn't consider that perfroming exceptionally well.

 

Sounds like some yuppie who is all put out because his VW Beetle (let's face it this is what the TT really is) is getting spanked by every Z he comes across.

Not to mention his lies about the Audi warranty which is actually a 4 year / 50,000 miles warrantly, not a 5 year / 60,000 miles one as he claims.

 

Where are you getting this 40% figure? Is this just some arbitrary number you came up with??? Do tell, please...

 

If you think it's a Porche rip off, why are you even considering it in the first place? You said that you are getting a roadster rather than coupe, then why are you comparing the Z with a freak'n roadster? The Z is obviously better since you are considering to buy one over the TT you currently have. BTW, Audi has worse, if not the same, reliability than the BMW's. My friends can be witnesses, for both own an Audi.

Last, can you say that Hondas make cheap cars? The S2K has the same 3 year warranty.

In case you didn't know, the higher markup you pay for German cars pays for the extra services (warranties) you get.

Get your facts straight.

Black Track.

 

Who cares if it is a Porsche rip-off?

I'd rather my car be a porsche rip-off than a VW Beetle rip-off like his TT Coupe.

 

I'll chime in with my 2 cents here. I own both a Z and an Audi allroad 2.7t. I have also owned a Porsche 911 and Mercedes SL500sport. IMO the German cars have nicer interiors with much higher quality plastics. The refinement level of the Germans is higher. Their ride is better too. HOWEVER, they also cost a hell of a lot more $$$. So of course they can afford to use some higher quality materials. That being said, the Z is 95% of what a Porsche does for 1/2 to 1/3 the cost. No, it will not outperform a 911 nor a turbo, but in the real world of American roads, it's damm close for the money. And having owned very expensive German cars in the past, this time I voted for the Z with my pocketbook.

While my Audi has been reliable (it's only got 5k mi), others on the Audiworld forum have experienced blown turbos. This is why Audi is moving away from turbo engines towards V8's in their future lineups. Yes, the warranty is better. And the free service is nice too. But I suspect Audi had to do those things to make the car competitive in today's marketplace.

I do find the Z's warranty to be a bit on the chintzy side. But I'm hoping that it being a Japanese car, it will follow in the tradition of reliable Japanese products. From what I can see already, servicing the Z is a ton less $$ than for the Porsche. And aftermarket parts for the Z are way less $$ too.

As for the styling, Porsche has a winner on their hands because of history and their participation (and winning) in racing. The 911's roots can be traced way back to the 356. The Boxster is a clean sheet new design that is very pretty. The Z is but one car line for Nissan, a company that traditionally made cost efficient people movers with a performance twist. IMHO the Z IS an original design. It is derivative of nothing except perhaps the original Z. That smacks of tradition and lineage, the same way Porsche uses it. Why do you think the automotive press has been in such a furor over the 350Z? It's a show stopper in every sense of the word.

This is my first Japanese car. In fact, other than SUV's this is my first non-German car. So far I can say that except for the bouncy suspension (fixable) I'm very satisfied with the price/performance/looks of the Z. If you must have the P car then buy that. I was ready to spend 120k on a Porsche 996tt or Mercedes SL55. The tax alone on those cars is 1/3 the cost of the Z. Do I regret spending less on the Z and not having 0-60 in 4.2-4.5 sec? For the way I drive, not a bit