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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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sunday 4-13-08 is prolly one of my worst days...

wake up leave from cali to come back home and i get a speeding ticket for 89 in a 70..

get home at 7:00pm..do a tortilla flats run at 9:00pm with jimmy and a supra..

half way up the run i miscalculate a turn and lose traction and find my back end in the middle lane and to make things worse a truck comes out of nowhere so i clip my left rear on the trucks left side of back door/truck bed..

sidairbags deployed during the impact..

ambulance and towtrucks come..i get 2 tickets for 'failure to avoid collission' and 'driving in middle lane' or whatever ticket related to that..i had no intention of speeding on this run and driving like a maniac and having bad tires which also sucks..it was my first accident

so my license is gonna be suspended again and insurance is going out the roof..so my chances of keeping the car are very slim right now so it'll be a sad day if it happens..unless if theres a chance of it being considered a total loss..

the accident was my fault and im owning up to everything ive done..im really pissed and dissappointed this happened but im gonna suck it up and own up to my actions and learn from this..

fyi i may be parting everything out


well **** happens..










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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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^yes it is..but i believe things happen for a reason and so far its turning out for the better..

that car was a AT which as my reason for not doing performance mods..

but now i can go with the plan i really wanted which was a 6MT 'BLACK' Z..
cant wait till i get my next Z..
hey russ do you know the difference between the different black colored Zs???? or are they just diff color names for diff years??
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Zgrabin
^yes it is..but i believe things happen for a reason and so far its turning out for the better..

that car was a AT which as my reason for not doing performance mods..

but now i can go with the plan i really wanted which was a 6MT 'BLACK' Z..
cant wait till i get my next Z..
hey russ do you know the difference between the different black colored Zs???? or are they just diff color names for diff years??
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 07:08 PM
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Boost it!
thats exactly what im doing..and of course im having intense work on it..Im not looking at any crazy # gains..im just looking at the safest set-up possible for a turbo on a stock motor since itd be my DD..since i no close to nothing about turbo's and will be searching around here hardcore over the summer before i go turbo..since im the type to learn first hand rather than reading a bunch of stuff..
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Zgrabin
thats exactly what im doing..and of course im having intense work on it..Im not looking at any crazy # gains..im just looking at the safest set-up possible for a turbo on a stock motor since itd be my DD..since i no close to nothing about turbo's and will be searching around here hardcore over the summer before i go turbo..since im the type to learn first hand rather than reading a bunch of stuff..
Good Choice with Intense! Are you going to do a Powerlab Kit or are you gonna go twins?
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 07:54 PM
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Good Choice with Intense! Are you going to do a Powerlab Kit or are you gonna go twins?
i''d love to do the powerlab but dont wanna spend that much..ive been leaning towards the greddy twins,but the turbo-kit is a matter of whats the safest kit and whats the best option for me 'fund' wise.. i dont wanna go supercharged either..

i jsut gotta do some more research as its only been a year since ive been in this car modding scene..my comfort zone is sports haha
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 07:59 PM
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i''d love to do the powerlab but dont wanna spend that much..ive been leaning towards the greddy twins,but the turbo-kit is a matter of whats the safest kit and whats the best option for me 'fund' wise.. i dont wanna go supercharged either..

i jsut gotta do some more research as its only been a year since ive been in this car modding scene..my comfort zone is sports haha
Greddy Twins on low boost DD, is really nice! The thing to remember when choosing between twins and single, is labor. Twins cost ALMOSt double the install labor as single. If you want a budget F/I build, i would start off with like a Turbonetics Kit.... if you spen some more then Greddy Twins! If you want to stay single, go Powerlab (Intense usually gives really good deals to locals!)
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:16 PM
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Greddy Twins on low boost DD, is really nice! The thing to remember when choosing between twins and single, is labor. Twins cost ALMOSt double the install labor as single. If you want a budget F/I build, i would start off with like a Turbonetics Kit.... if you spen some more then Greddy Twins! If you want to stay single, go Powerlab (Intense usually gives really good deals to locals!)

huh i never realized that labor costs that much more,but it does make a lot sense..what would be a ur guesstimate as to the price range of single..or twin installs??..

i know a local here that was actually selling a turbonetics kit here a bit ago..i will ask if hes sold it or decide to keep it..

what other parts should i look at aside from the turbo-kit that would help make a safer DD,like turbotimer and what not???...

i truly appreciate your help since most ppl wouldnt bother to inform me about basics about turbos
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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huh i never realized that labor costs that much more,but it does make a lot sense..what would be a ur guesstimate as to the price range of single..or twin installs??..

i know a local here that was actually selling a turbonetics kit here a bit ago..i will ask if hes sold it or decide to keep it..

what other parts should i look at aside from the turbo-kit that would help make a safer DD,like turbotimer and what not???...

i truly appreciate your help since most ppl wouldnt bother to inform me about basics about turbos
Labor, my guesstimate would be 1200-1500 roughly for a single and closer to 2000-2200 for twins. You also half to factor in the labor to install any accessories you get (i.e. gauges, turbo timer, boost controler, etc.)

Things i would recommend:

-Gauges (Boost, Wideband, Oil Temp, Water temp)
-Turbo Timer
-Boost Controller
-Nismo Thermostat

Being in Arizona, and we see like 115+ for a few months of the year, keeping your engine temps down is a must, IMO.

If this will be your first boosted car, i would hold off on the boost controler for now, because you WILL want to play with it, and that usually leads to bad things

Things like oil coolers, upgraded radiators, thermostats are deffinetly not needed, but given the temps here, might be a wise investment!

Feel free to PM me if you ever have any questions.
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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what do products like that usually cost

gauges..
turbotimer..
boost controller..
nismo thermostat..

how does the nismo thermostat work??

would also be better to upgrade the clutch??

how much would a turbo affect gas mileage over a non turbod Z??

o and do you work at intense or are you sponsored with them or what?..
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Zgrabin
what do products like that usually cost

gauges..
turbotimer..
boost controller..
nismo thermostat..
It all depends on what brands you go with. Gauges, I would go Defi. Turbo Timer and BC, I would go Greddy

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how does the nismo thermostat work??
This low-temp thermostat for the VQ35 engine is a direct bolt-on replacement for the original. It opens at 154 degrees F compared to 170 degrees F for the stock Thermostat

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would also be better to upgrade the clutch??
Depending on how much power you are looking to make. 400 or less keep the stock clutch until you burn it. 400 or more, and then I would recommend upgrading.

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how much would a turbo affect gas mileage over a non turbod Z??
If you have to ask this question, then you shouldn't go turbo!

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o and do you work at intense or are you sponsored with them or what?..
HAHA, No. I do not work for Intense, and I am not sponsored by them. I am friends with the guys there though, and have been around there shop enough to see what come out of it!
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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im not worried about the gas mielage just thought i'd ask...

im just looking at maybe 350-380 #s..

i dont quite understand the whole wastegate/open dumps situation..what exactly are wastegates and where are they located and such..and the difference between open and closed
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Old Apr 30, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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im not worried about the gas mielage just thought i'd ask...

im just looking at maybe 350-380 #s..

i dont quite understand the whole wastegate/open dumps situation..what exactly are wastegates and where are they located and such..and the difference between open and closed
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Most automotive turbochargers have a wastegate, which allows the use of a smaller turbocharger to reduce lag while preventing it from spinning too quickly at high engine speeds. The wastegate is a valve that allows the exhaust to bypass the turbine blades. The wastegate senses the boost pressure. If the pressure gets too high, it could be an indicator that the turbine is spinning too quickly, so the wastegate bypasses some of the exhaust around the turbine blades, allowing the blades to slow down.

Basically it controls the boost.... (I'm sure you have heard the phrase "spring pressure" before) A wastegate has a spring in that is rated to certain psi's. If the wastegate see's to much pressure, it opens at the rated spring level, and reduced the amount exhaust entering the turbo. Wastegates are mounted in the turbo manifold, before the turbo.

Example: If you have a wastegate with a 6psi spring, when you excelerate, and you cars begins to create boost, if the amount of boost the turbo creates is more then 6 psi, it will open and "dump" the exhaust either into the atmosphere (This is called "open dumps"), or back into the exhaust (This is called "closed dumps"). Hope that helps!
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ok makes sense..so are open dumps better than closed dumps?..or is there different circumstances?..

open dumps gives you the more 'aggressive' sound i suppose?..
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ok makes sense..so are open dumps better than closed dumps?..or is there different circumstances?..

open dumps gives you the more 'aggressive' sound i suppose?..
Open dumps are more aggressive "sounding". Most systems are closed dumps.
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Old May 1, 2008 | 08:38 AM
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^is there any power difference between open dumps and closed dumps?

what would be any common problems to be aware of,like leaks,vacuums,etc??
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^is there any power difference between open dumps and closed dumps?

what would be any common problems to be aware of,like leaks,vacuums,etc??
I think it's more of preference than anything. I personally prefer closed dumps. I don't think there is any power difference, but some people say closed gives you a little more power.

As far as problems, are you asking overall with F/I or regarding the wastegat?
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I think it's more of preference than anything. I personally prefer closed dumps. I don't think there is any power difference, but some people say closed gives you a little more power.

As far as problems, are you asking overall with F/I or regarding the wastegat?

overall regarding going F/I..what to be aware of common problems and how to prevent
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overall regarding going F/I..what to be aware of common problems and how to prevent
The things you have to watch the most are your temperatures and your fluids. Make sure you have enough oil in the car (I say give it a check every Saturday morning if your daily driving the car). Check your coolant every so often, and monitor your Engine Temp, Oil Temp, and Water (Coolant) Temp. Also, while your driving, take a peak at your Air-Fuel ratio to ensure your not running to rich or to lean.
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