Nah man I don't want to be appraised. lol, your ability to read this thread is embarrassing. Anyways, yea Abui1 is 17 3/4 year old, he goes out with my friend's sister lol. You little f*ck he does present facts. Facts like me being offered a free Vortech install to write something about AAM and previous requests for writing good ****. Some people have been ''let off'' of fees they never should have faced and/or paid not to speak on the bs they saw went through. Check out Ryan's bs and Brent's bs, and Toby's bs before you open your mouth. You need to sit the f*ck down and let the people know what the f*ck they are talking about talk, regardless of age. Mike is someone who will undermine a good guy like Clint to make a couple extra bucks.
So many haters? LMAO. Yea I'm hating on a shop that pops motors like a high school kid on steroids pops pimples.
Conitnue not caring but when AAM rapes you and you can't ride a bicycle be/c your so butt hurt then don't come crying. But you're MATURE and don't care about other people being ripped off. Dunno who you are, but you should get the full story before you criticize other people.

 

And I suppose a person who joined on "Join Date: 05-29-2007" knows the fully story?
You mean like this?
1. https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...&postcount=104
2. https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...&postcount=103
3. https://my350z.com/forum/showpost.ph...0&postcount=60
I don't even want to know what you were talking about in #3
So... first you question my actual age by asking me "you're 17 3/4 years old?" However, you negated this statement by voicing your next statement: "you might not be," thus concluding the fact that you may think I am older.
However, you then believe my maturity level is of par to a 17 year old, but you later retract your statement once again by stating "you act your age" thus referring to the age you thought I initially was (Older). So... which one is it? You my friend, need a lesson from the elders in Logic 101.

However, if you are unable to decipher the writen word of an elder, and the writen word of an immature 17 year old, let me give you an example, please see below:
^LOL!!
Really? And yours does? How so? Lets use you as an example, see below:
The statement above is an opinion. Therefore I must conclude you think you are:
1. smarter than me, thus qualifying you to judge my statements as ones that do not "count one bit, what so ever"
2. far more superior human being than I am
3. watch too many Michael Jackson videos

You set an awful example of "respect" since you are such the Wise Elder when you state comments such as this:
Since you preach Respect: to my knowledge, telling another individual to "shut up" and "sit down" does not qualify as "respectful."

Scroll up, people have been doing so!
No I think you think YOU are Cool! Take your own advice there buddy, everything you posted in this thread is an immature opinion that did NOT help my friend sell his car whatsoever:
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....83#post4596883
+1!!!

 

spddmn124, you don't want to get in an argument with Abui01, you lack the logic skills from what I have seen in your previous posts. Just turn around and walk away while you can still save face. Otherwise you will get pwned by a 17.75 year old.

 

Just to add my .02 cents:

I do a lot of reading on this forum (not too much posting) and I have seen a lot of neg. feedback on AAM. Well I live down the street from a former Mechanic from AAM. Even he told me to take my car there for brakes, exhaust, or simple work like that, but when it comes to dyno's they'll blow your **** up. So one afternoon I decided to take my car to AAM have a resonator welded on my single exhaust (little too raspy at the time).

Positive: My neighbor did the install - looks great, and sounds pretty good as well, (other than my exhaust rattles at times now) overall pretty happy .

Negative: OVERCHARGED - I will say that he was up front with me about the price, ($200 for the install of a used resinator) I just did not feel like driving to Columbia for something so minor [my normal mechanic, Ron Lucas owns Lucas Preformance - who does GREAT WORK at a GREAT PRICE! - lil plug for my man]. On top of the price, he was hanging around my neighbor during the install (shop was dead at the time). When I asked him what that was all about, I was told that he had another 15 min. to get it done or else he would have to charge me 1.5 hours for labor as oppost to the original 1 hour estimate. In total shock, I knew then I would never go back to a shop who was willing to go back on their original estimate because the installer went over the original estimated install time by 15-20 minutes.

 

Spoken like somebody who knows the AAM-Mid A history.

I have never met Clint, but when these threads pop up I feel bad for the guy, as I do most good people who work for and eventually leave AAM. I could get into my whole story and lies (wrong parts in car) and BS with them, but at this point I feel like it would be like kicking a dead horse

I always get a kick out of newbs who dont know any better and throw posts like this up and when people post their negative experiences suddenly the newbs dont believe it.

Best thing at AAM is Frank-I remember when my car was their he had just started he stayed VERY LATE on a Friday trying to help me out.

 

why are you so mad that im posting the TRUTH about a shop? Im just trying to save you from what has happened to so many other members. Sorry for trying to help, but im not going to stop posting.

 

you got served! LOL @ "like a high school kid on steroids pops pimples"

 

Frank is an awesome, super skilled mechanic. and a nice dude to boot.

 

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First, before I say anything, thanks for the comments everyone.

How many motors have you [AAM] built in house?

10 Completed. Also: 2 x 4.2 strokers in the early stages, and 3 Full builds getting started. I'm more than willing to post numbers, pics, ect about these cars.


Did Mike tune them?

Yes

Conservative tunes or aggressive tunes?

Both. Depends on the customers wishes.

How many PSI are they pushing?

12psi to 23psi depending on the customer’s setup.

How many miles are on them?

Between 4K and 15K approx

Have you put any more cylinder heads on with hammers?

Everyday, didn’t you hear it’s the new ASE way?

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Mike DID NOT blow up my car on the dyno. Back in 2001 during my first tenure here as an employee (I left in 03 to finish my degree), I had a 97 AWD Talon with a T67, built motor, AEM EMS (Serial #00004, lol) etc. Not only did the early AEM systems have problems, but during the first tuning session, I had a fuel system failure at high rpm in full boost and melted some valves and the top of a piston. My car made much more power than anticipated, and it was not anyone’s fault - except perhaps my own for not setting up the car with an adequate fuel system.

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Alberto, thanks for the comments (and nice car by the way. I heard you got into it on 66 with on of our JWT700 cars, time to upgrade him to the 850BBs!). However, my employment circumstances are different. I have a long history with this company, going on 10 years. My second tenure here came with no surprises - I know the company and the aftermarket industry well. I understand where you are coming from, but there's no reason to feel bad for me.

Also, Frank is awesome. This morning, I took the opportunity to speak to Frank and Mike, from what I understand, Frank, Mike, and Randy all stayed late to help you out that Friday evening, which I think is commendable. And in reference to the incorrect used part, although I was not there, after speaking to everyone, I think everyone's intentions were honest and continued to be when we took them back.

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And again to Widebody350Z, (and anybody else this is relevant to),

I don’t know many if you, but I enjoy the industry and enjoy helping customers build their cars from start to finish, with no surprises. And with many of the recent builds that has been the case. Also, I appreciate the comments.

As far as the MID-A AAM history is concerned, I have only two things to say:

1. Naturally, as I do work here , I want to defend AAM. I must though, say that it is unfortunate that forums are so efficient at perpetuating disingenuous information about a handful of certain AAM "problem" cars. Does any one know how many motors (import in general VQs,4G63,RBs,2JZs)) have been built here over the years? - Hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds. And due to a professional and well managed business, only a small and predictable percentage have had problems. All I can do is work harder to help relieve problems when they occur. I’m genuinely sorry for the customers who’ve left unhappy. Could some of the problems been avoided? Perhaps, but, maybe not as problems come with the territory. The fact is everyone is entitled to their opinions. But occasionally, when customers, whether by way of a blown motor or delayed part delivery, are angered or frustrated or hurt, opinions about certain events or circumstances become inundated with emotion. And with the advent of the forums, a few unhappy or hurt customers quickly spreads and becomes one and all (although many people have never even been here).

2. When I see threads like this, one which grew out of a genuine and honest review by another Z/G enthusiast, I am disheartened. Not about the success or reputation of this company per se, but about the community in general. Criticizing AAM is one thing, but criticizing someone for their choice about coming to AAM for service and their subsequent positive experience is another.

Mike and AAM have gone to great lengths (I see it every day) to make sure every customer is taken care of. The best we can ask is for anyone past, future, present that doesn't have a 110% experience with us to let us know. Many times we aren't even aware a customer is unhappy with their service. So please, don't hesitate to express to us your concerms - allow me, or anyone else here, the opportunity to make your experience everything you expected. What I can tell you is that whatever the case, we will all do our best to make sure our fellow Z and G enthusiasts have our total support.

 

Poor Altered Atmosphere...
Everyone Says Stay Clear...
I Say Have No Fear!

 

I true tuner would have seen the car going lean and stopped before the big bang.

I would also like to see all the dyno charts from the built motors.

 

An injector failed under full load on the first full pass. My car had old, used HKS injectors off of a single turbo supra - which is fine, as long as you spend the time and small amount of money to have them calibrated, cleaned and flow tested. I didnt, and well, LOL, I learned my lesson.

 

Thanks Clint for the FULL FACTUAL STORY.

 

Bad Haiku?

Here's mine :

Clint and Mike try hard
Reputations bleed black ooze
Like blood from motor

 

More like one or two small details...

 

Would you expect anything more from them?

Still waiting on dyno charts...

 

I just don't see the need to keep bashing anymore, let people make thier own choice and find out that way.

Motors blowing in performance applications should be an inherent risk taken by the person requesting the modifications to thier vehicle. anything aside from a %100 stock Z in my eyes is taking a risk.

I completely destroyed my motor myself because of a cold air intake that sucked water up into it. It was my fault, I put the part on the car, I paid for a new engine from the $$ I had saved for a turbo. OUCH!! But it's a risk that you take when you mod your car. Anyone that doesn't understand that should find a new hobby ASAP!!

 

So does anyone know who this person is in real life?! I'm REALLY curious.

 

+1 so why not have him work on your car...he works at AAM?

Professionalism is an umbrella term used to describe many different aspects of business conduct. Customer service, work ethics, and business integrity are often grouped together with professionalism and it’s all mixed up in people’s minds as one big concept. Each of these is actually very different aspects and has nothing to do with professionalism. Just like fondness, friendship, and lust are all lumped under the word ‘love.’ In truth they are not exactly the same as ‘love’ but when we think of saying “I love you” many of those ideas cross our mind. When in fact love is something completely different but very similar to those other things. Such is the case with the word ‘professionalism.’

Customer service is treating the customer the way you would like to be treated. It is a way of telling them that you care about them and whether or not they have a positive experience in dealing with you and your product. I can give you a steak on a trash can lid, does that mean that you should eat it? We feel that good customer service from any corporation is one who cares who I am and how their product will affects me (us). A salesperson at whatever company could be rude, arrogant, and demeaning. However if they pretend to be polite and oh so politically correct and makes darn sure that I get my product delivered to my house/car/ on time in as advertised or presumed to be advertised condition, the things are well. Upon finding out that there is a broken piece while trying to assemble it or it malfunctioning prematurely, I then have to call that same salesman to get the broken piece replaced or fixed. This is the part that separates a one time visit to your shop or a life time friendship and constant money flow… If the salesperson quickly and easily takes care of my problem without wasting any more of my time, I don’t mind even paying extra the next time, but not now. I have been inconvenienced, not you. You don’t not at this time decide to make more money while your initial promise of “a working product” has been broken. I claim good customer service even though I cannot stand the salesperson if in a time of need the step up to prove that they genuinely care about me, my purchase, and my ride.

Work ethic is your personal commitment to showing up and working to the best of your ability in a conscientious manner. That same arrogant salesperson may put in hours of overtime off the company’s time clock without getting financial reimbursement because he cares a lot about people’s opinion of him, not because he really likes his boss or his customers. He works like crazy because he is committed to seeing the job through to the end. I can call on them from 7am to 10pm most days and they are almost always there to handle my account. They have a great work ethic even though they could be a pompous jerk pretending to be concerned about my business needs.

Business integrity is when that same super cheesy fake salesman sells the product to me at a fair price and is “honest” with me about the attributes of the product I am purchasing. He does not exaggerate the benefits of the product nor does he feel a need to sell me second-rate goods at a first rate price. He is a straight shooter and earns my business primarily through earning my respect. If something goes wrong with the product, he offers to replace it or give me back my money. We still may not like them though because every fiber of my being is bristling at how fake they are.

Professionalism is that happy, happy, joy, joy smiley face that people often feel forced to maintain and for good reason… ten, hundreds, and thousands of hard earned dollars. No matter what is happening in your real life, you have a job to do at the end of the day or there will be no job to come to tomorrow. As a consumer, all things equal, I would give my business to someone who is authentically grumpy instead of someone who is pretending to be super nice. Be real and honest… those are two words that are also abused in this instant gratification based lifestyle we live in.

The reason we love to frequent (insert store of choice) is because we get to know the owners as real people and we like giving them our money for the same exact item that we could get up the street from a big fake cold-hearted business. Time vs. Money [pay extra with shipping or buy today at your shop] This trend is rapidly spreading throughout the use of the Internet in particular my350z/g35driver. Why should someone come to your shop over 31 other flavors of ice cream?

If you are truly secure in who you are, your ability to provide good customer service, a good work ethic, and quality business integrity, then why do you need to behave in a fake or unprofessional manner? People intuitively know when others are genuine or not especially when it comes to our 20-60K+ sleds that we drive each day. We like to do business with our friends whenever possible. If you are a vendor…ask yourself how many customers are/could/or potentially be your friend?

The words we speak and the way we say them impacts us (the customer) on a deeper level then we or you realize. It is part of what makes us feel so isolated, disrespected, screwed over (fill in your own words), and lonely. That’s why so many of us confide in my350z/g35driver. We need to feel safe about our service and purchases. We do not feel like anyone (most vendors and shops) really cares about us and the hard earned money we are using to spend on their products.

I have seen good and bad events on almost every single shop, person, car, boyfriend, girlfriend, husband, wife, part, and animal on this site. If you think for one second that someone hasn’t said something negative about you, you are fooled. The idea is to have more people saying good things about you, than bad things.

Flying off at the handle and being disrespectful affects all of us (that includes this forum!). Bad experiences bring out the worst in all of us too. Just look at this thread. This is yet another thread that has not helped us reach anything positive. I have some SERIOUS beefs with some practices that one particular shop did. And news flash, that shop is not AAM. So every coin has a bad side.

My point is this. For once, can anyone take the high road? I too am guilty of some of the fore mention negative practices. But there is obviously some wrong doing by shop A, B, and C. OK we all know this. Why do you all feel the need to consistently bring up bad views? Have you been so wrong that you cannot forgive? If a man can forgive a man for rapping his daughter (which I myself still have a problem with understanding) then I think that the new efforts being conducted at AAM deserve a fair trail. Just because you robbed a bank in 1976 doesn’t mean you robbed the one that got hit yesterday. The best thing you can do is to control your own money. Don’t dig into the pockets of others by trying to make yourself look cool by talking shizzil. You have proven your points like 50,000 times. Let it be, show some control, respect for others….you are not the only ones who read the boards. For once, can the Mid A become known as a classy, respectful, organized section of my350z?


1. Sick of the Shop bashing
2. I applaud Cliff and Mike for making an effort
3. I am still struggling with forgiveness myself from my friends dealings with AAM
4. I have heard bad things about most shops.
5. Lets take a turn for the good.
6. Are we being profession and raising the bar for the shops...We have the money we control what they do.
7. I am off my soap box.


My ridiculous government salaries worth!