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Old 04-12-2011, 02:23 PM
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Hi,

Some nice person put a new camera on college parkway by Montgomery college and took an awesome shoot of my car.

Its a 25mph and I was going 37mph. I remember the day it happened. I slowed down as soon as I noticed my speed, but got the shot anyways.
My bad, I already paid it.

Now...... I have noticed that they have put about 3 more cameras (new design, just a simple metal box, not a post anymore) on my regular commuter route.

I do not go over 10mph than the limit on any road that is not a highway. But today, I think I went about 12-15 over on the one they just put on Georgia Avenue in Silver Spring (between 16th st and spring street).

It pisses me off because I always have the car roll downhill on that section. And I do not slow down because the uphill 50' after will stop me just fine in a few more feet.

They just painted some white lines. But it looks like were painted by a 3 year old child with a spray can (like some fake ones I have seen at some neighborhoods). When I saw them, I slowed down, but not enough. And when I looked at the rear mirror, I saw the small shitty box!!!

Like I said, I do not speed on regular roads, and I just paid the first picture ever I have gotten by a camera. My concern is that this one on georgia avenue might have been there for a few days and might have taken more than 1 shot since its right at the end of the downhill where I let my car roll.

Anybody knows of a similar similar happen where somebody might have taken more than 1 pic on a single place before arriving home?
Any way to go to court and ask for some forgiveness if I get more than 1?
Old 04-12-2011, 03:07 PM
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Yeah. Thats what I thought.

I am thinking that if they did take any pics, Im going to have to suck it again and pay.

Im just gonna drive with the navigation on 24/7 because this amount of cameras is becoming ridiculous....
Old 04-12-2011, 03:19 PM
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Where I live the camera tickets put NO POINTS on your license, they are civil tickets and if you don't pay after many years they will put a hit on your credit record. Your state may have different laws, check in the regional forum for your best info.
Old 04-12-2011, 03:51 PM
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They don't assign points because they can't prove who drove the car.

However, showing up in court proving that you're the driver.. hMm...

Good to know there are a lot more cameras in MD.
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Get some of that clear spray paint which blocks your license plate from the camera.
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^ that trick doesn't work.

These tricks however, DO work:

1. Use inferred LED's (custom mounted) pointing toward your license plate. It'll blind any type of camera - daytime or night. You can test this theory out by popping out your cell phone camera and picking up a TV remote (which uses inferred technology). Now point the remote toward your cell and push any button on the remote. You'll notice the remote will *blind* your cell phone camera. The naked eye is not able to detect inferred signals so it's invisible to authorities on the road.

2. (if you have a 2nd car), go to the MVA and do a license plate transfer/swap between your two vehicles. When they run the plate from the photo they took of you - the registered plate # won't match the vehicle description and the ticket will be thrown out. Of course you're going to have to do this on the day of or the day after for this trick to work.

3. Get a license plate that looks like: "0O00O0" (or something similar along those lines) The pixel width between a "O" and a "0" (when displayed on a computer screen) are too refined for stoplight cameras to pickup the differences. If they can't read your plate, the ticket gets tossed out.
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Originally Posted by abui01
^ that trick doesn't work.

These tricks however, DO work:

1. Use inferred LED's (custom mounted) pointing toward your license plate. It'll blind any type of camera - daytime or night. You can test this theory out by popping out your cell phone camera and picking up a TV remote (which uses inferred technology). Now point the remote toward your cell and push any button on the remote. You'll notice the remote will *blind* your cell phone camera. The naked eye is not able to detect inferred signals so it's invisible to authorities on the road.

2. (if you have a 2nd car), go to the MVA and do a license plate transfer/swap between your two vehicles. When they run the plate from the photo they took of you - the registered plate # won't match the vehicle description and the ticket will be thrown out. Of course you're going to have to do this on the day of or the day after for this trick to work.

3. Get a license plate that looks like: "0O00O0" (or something similar along those lines) The pixel width between a "O" and a "0" (when displayed on a computer screen) are too refined for stoplight cameras to pickup the differences. If they can't read your plate, the ticket gets tossed out.
#1 sounds promising. If one were interested in this type of mod how would you do it?
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You could also get a GPS device. Escort's 9500ix radar detector also alerts to cameras. (before you get to them of course)

A cheaper option would be a Cheetah C50 for ~$120. It just alerts to cameras and the like. No radar detection.
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Originally Posted by Z1NONLY
You could also get a GPS device. Escort's 9500ix radar detector also alerts to cameras. (before you get to them of course)

A cheaper option would be a Cheetah C50 for ~$120. It just alerts to cameras and the like. No radar detection.
There is an app that you can install on any gps available for free that install cameras as interest points. And beeps when getting close.

The problem is when they add new ones...
Old 04-12-2011, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by abui01
They don't assign points because they can't prove who drove the car.

However, showing up in court proving that you're the driver.. hMm...

Good to know there are a lot more cameras in MD.
Montgomery Is pretty much a wannbie NVA.

Besides, NVA just got a shitload of redlight camears.

It's only a matter of time. States need money.........
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Hopefully I'll be getting my V1 installed this month. College Park sent me 5 presents in the mail last month from the new speed traps on Rt 1.
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Originally Posted by WYZIWYG
Hopefully I'll be getting my V1 installed this month. College Park sent me 5 presents in the mail last month from the new speed traps on Rt 1.
They keep moving that speed trap on Rt. 1 all the time. It's getting annoying. Luckily my Escort 8500 alerts me to speed cameras
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Dang man, sucks for us that MD is stepping their game up.
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Can't reduce spending. That'll teach people to rely on themselves instead of depend on the government to provide everything. No, instead it's far easier to just increase driving taxes.

Can't wait to pcs out of this bullscheisse.
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Originally Posted by WYZIWYG
#1 sounds promising. If one were interested in this type of mod how would you do it?
I was actually going to build one! LOL. It's not that difficult, just VERY time consuming. All the parts are available from your local radio shack. You'll need a license plate frame (any will do), resistors, infrared LED's, copper wiring, solder + gun, a basic circuit board, and know how to do some math to convert your ohms to volts n $hit.

Radio Shack High-Output Infrared LEDs

No companies that I know of sell something like this. Smart robbers in the past have designed devices like these attached to their heads so their faces won't get picked up by security cameras when robbing banks/convenient stores.

P.S. there's a redlight camera on 95N going toward Baltimore (where the construction zone is)... yes... on the freakin' highway!

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Originally Posted by abui01
I was actually going to build one! LOL. It's not that difficult, just VERY time consuming. All the parts are available from your local radio shack. You'll need a license plate frame (any will do), resistors, infrared LED's, copper wiring, solder + gun, a basic circuit board, and know how to do some math to convert your ohms to volts n $hit.

Radio Shack High-Output Infrared LEDs

No companies that I know of sell something like this. Smart robbers in the past have designed devices like these attached to their heads so their faces won't get picked up by security cameras when robbing banks/convenient stores.

P.S. there's a redlight camera on 95N going toward Baltimore (where the construction zone is)... yes... on the freakin' highway!
Would you mind documenting your steps/procedures when you make yours. If it's successful I know someone who might be able to replicate it on my car.
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No points for camera tickets as already said. Here's a new one, MOBILE cameras either in cars they move or on a mobile stand. Maryland loves cameras- it is a supplement to TAXES
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Originally Posted by WYZIWYG
Hopefully I'll be getting my V1 installed this month. College Park sent me 5 presents in the mail last month from the new speed traps on Rt 1.
You to, I got one saying i was going 38 in a 35 near Ritas next to UM. I mad my radar detector didnt pick it up.
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Originally Posted by SpoolageDropout
You to, I got one saying i was going 38 in a 35 near Ritas next to UM. I mad my radar detector didnt pick it up.
Older cameras use "X" or "K" band that can be detected a mile away. The toll booths use laser technology. But the latest and greatest is something undetectable so I'd be careful, especially in construction zones - I believe they set the camera so that if you go even 1mph over the limit, you get your picture taken.
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Originally Posted by KAT_Ayanami
There is an app that you can install on any gps available for free that install cameras as interest points. And beeps when getting close.

The problem is when they add new ones...
The database is the key. I have tried a couple of the free ones as POI's in my Garmin.

The good news is they didn't miss any cameras.

The bad news is that they reported almost anything that looked like a camera. -Even when they were no threat at all. (countless false alerts)

Cheetah has the most up to date and accurate database I have used. Belscort GPS products use the same datatbase.

Both Cheetah and Belscort need to be connected to a computer and have updates downloaded to them regularly. (And both require subscriptions)

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