NISMO Z vs. standard Z debate
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I bought my 06 right when it came out and my dealer said there wouldnt be any changes in 07 lol. If i would have known the new engine would have came out let alone the Nismo i would have waited and grabbed one in a heartbeat.
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Bottom line is this thread could go on forever and not prove one side is greater than the other...in each other's minds that is.
I would've been happy getting any Z, actually. I've been through test drives...and visited dealers countless times just to gawk.
When I saw the Nismo in pictures I wasn't a big fan of the rear bumper either. Seeing it in person was a whole different story. Loved it, so I bought it and never looked back since![](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/icon17.gif)
I didn't want to go through all the hassles of always taking the car into the shop for modifications to the suspension or body work. The Nismo package seems to rid me of all that. Yeah, the stereo is pretty shitty. I can live with it or upgrade as needed.
Sure, there are better cars. I'm just glad I can look back one day and say "yeah, I had that".
I would've been happy getting any Z, actually. I've been through test drives...and visited dealers countless times just to gawk.
When I saw the Nismo in pictures I wasn't a big fan of the rear bumper either. Seeing it in person was a whole different story. Loved it, so I bought it and never looked back since
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I didn't want to go through all the hassles of always taking the car into the shop for modifications to the suspension or body work. The Nismo package seems to rid me of all that. Yeah, the stereo is pretty shitty. I can live with it or upgrade as needed.
Sure, there are better cars. I'm just glad I can look back one day and say "yeah, I had that".
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Some people are just retarded.
People who prefer seat warmers, crappy Bose, and Bluetooth over performance=weak dicks.
No **** the NISMO isn't as fast in the 1/4 as a non-NISMO... it's not made for that. Put them both on a race track and the NISMO will ****ing OWN any other Z.
You're not just paying for some "ugly" body kit (which I think looks quite hot). You're paying for the countless hours and engineering that went into making an already good car outstanding.
People who prefer seat warmers, crappy Bose, and Bluetooth over performance=weak dicks.
No **** the NISMO isn't as fast in the 1/4 as a non-NISMO... it's not made for that. Put them both on a race track and the NISMO will ****ing OWN any other Z.
You're not just paying for some "ugly" body kit (which I think looks quite hot). You're paying for the countless hours and engineering that went into making an already good car outstanding.
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My question is: is the suspension on the Nismo Z the S-Tune parts? (Shocks/sways)
Like BBoy said above me, the Nismo wasn't made for straight-line/ 1/4 mile times. The Nismo kit on the car is designed for downforce, which equals drag, which equals resistance to air flow, and hence, a slightly affected 1/4 mile time.
Like BBoy said above me, the Nismo wasn't made for straight-line/ 1/4 mile times. The Nismo kit on the car is designed for downforce, which equals drag, which equals resistance to air flow, and hence, a slightly affected 1/4 mile time.
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My question is: is the suspension on the Nismo Z the S-Tune parts? (Shocks/sways)
Like BBoy said above me, the Nismo wasn't made for straight-line/ 1/4 mile times. The Nismo kit on the car is designed for downforce, which equals drag, which equals resistance to air flow, and hence, a slightly affected 1/4 mile time.
Like BBoy said above me, the Nismo wasn't made for straight-line/ 1/4 mile times. The Nismo kit on the car is designed for downforce, which equals drag, which equals resistance to air flow, and hence, a slightly affected 1/4 mile time.
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It seems like every six months or so, someone has to start this crap all over again. Seriously you'd think that we are talking about Mustangs vs Camaros.
It's the same freaking car people. It's still a Z, and last time I checked a Z is still a Z, Nismo, base, enthusiast, touring, whatever. Everybody knows the differences of each level by heart. Stop asking stupid questions that you know the answers to. Nismo haters want to start ***** with Nismo lovers.
I don't care about your opinions of my ugly, not worth the extra money Z.
It's the Z I chose, and leave it at that. I don't care about your Z that you can replicate for less money, and better body kit. I had an 06 base, and made the switch to a Nismo...why? Because I wanted to. I could have done all those things to my 06, but I did not, and neither have you for that matter.
Go and get all those things done like you say you can, and then post some pics, and facts. Maybe I'll care about you then.
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For the REAL people who have actually made these, or better mods to their Z's, this is not meant for you, and you know who you are.
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This is for the posters with nothing better to do than try and start the Nismo vs Z debate.
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Some people are just retarded.
People who prefer seat warmers, crappy Bose, and Bluetooth over performance=weak dicks.
No **** the NISMO isn't as fast in the 1/4 as a non-NISMO... it's not made for that. Put them both on a race track and the NISMO will ****ing OWN any other Z.
You're not just paying for some "ugly" body kit (which I think looks quite hot). You're paying for the countless hours and engineering that went into making an already good car outstanding.
People who prefer seat warmers, crappy Bose, and Bluetooth over performance=weak dicks.
No **** the NISMO isn't as fast in the 1/4 as a non-NISMO... it's not made for that. Put them both on a race track and the NISMO will ****ing OWN any other Z.
You're not just paying for some "ugly" body kit (which I think looks quite hot). You're paying for the countless hours and engineering that went into making an already good car outstanding.
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Very well. Off the NissanUSA website:
So, to be fair based on what Nissan is saying:
Enthusiast - $30,210
Nismo - $38,680
Difference: $8470
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So, for $8470 I get marginal BBK, Rays, questionable body kit, struts/shocks and springs, cat-back, extra chassis stamping and a plaque
Seems very expensive. I noticed that you're a Nismo owner so it's pretty safe to assume you're probably slightly biased. If I missed anything, please add to what I just said and educate me.
So, to be fair based on what Nissan is saying:
Enthusiast - $30,210
Nismo - $38,680
Difference: $8470
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So, for $8470 I get marginal BBK, Rays, questionable body kit, struts/shocks and springs, cat-back, extra chassis stamping and a plaque
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I think the Nismo is closer to the track model than the Enthusiast... they just don't have a track model for 08. Anyways my track was 37k when it was new so if the nismo is selling somewhat like the track models used to be, than for an extra 1000 you get that suspension, stiffer chassis. body dampners, and the body kit, with the two tone interior...
But lets compare it to the Enthusiast, I'll break it down:
---Enthusiast - $30,210
---That marginal bbk from Brembo would cost you at least $4,000 for a 4-piston set-up
---That questionable body kit would cost more than this amount but for the sake of argument. You choose your own, a basic full kit in urethane your looking at $2000 minimum if your lucky...and it won't be as functional or painted for that price
---The basic Nismo suspension sales for about $1400, which is about an average set-up
---an exhaust runs you about another $1000
Your so called enthusiast model just went to 38,610 without factoring in those rays, the extra chassis stamping, extra body dampeners, a plaque and two tone interior... which should run you a couple thousand more....
So even if you don't like the nismo, for the people that do it's definitely worth the money...
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EDIT: N/M... we're making the same point.
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Bottom line is this thread could go on forever and not prove one side is greater than the other...in each other's minds that is.
I would've been happy getting any Z, actually. I've been through test drives...and visited dealers countless times just to gawk.
When I saw the Nismo in pictures I wasn't a big fan of the rear bumper either. Seeing it in person was a whole different story. Loved it, so I bought it and never looked back since![](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/icon17.gif)
I didn't want to go through all the hassles of always taking the car into the shop for modifications to the suspension or body work. The Nismo package seems to rid me of all that. Yeah, the stereo is pretty shitty. I can live with it or upgrade as needed.
Sure, there are better cars. I'm just glad I can look back one day and say "yeah, I had that".
I would've been happy getting any Z, actually. I've been through test drives...and visited dealers countless times just to gawk.
When I saw the Nismo in pictures I wasn't a big fan of the rear bumper either. Seeing it in person was a whole different story. Loved it, so I bought it and never looked back since
![](https://my350z.com/forum/images/smilies/icon17.gif)
I didn't want to go through all the hassles of always taking the car into the shop for modifications to the suspension or body work. The Nismo package seems to rid me of all that. Yeah, the stereo is pretty shitty. I can live with it or upgrade as needed.
Sure, there are better cars. I'm just glad I can look back one day and say "yeah, I had that".
It is about choice and do you want more sporty looks and a car that performs a little more or something more of standard styling and a softer ride to just cruise with? I guess I would buy a Luxo sedan if I wanted luxuries or get a G35,37 coupe...But being more performance minded this car rides very nicely and the performance seems really nice. And if you have not looked at one in person...Check one out....There much hotter in person than in picture by far I think.....I proved that to myself and realized it within 10 seconds of seeing it.
Just my couple of cents....and probably going this way
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