im trying to plan a "cruz" from the twin cities to lake superior, its my way of saying peice out to my Z for 6 months. any body is welcome to join. so far its just me and my buddie with his STI, i havent really brought it up to anybody else nor have i thought of a date...i was really considering the sun. after HIN.
please give me some input, hope you can all join me!

Jake

 

no takers? what if i bumped it up to mid oct.?

JAKE

 

might want to give it a couple days vs 3 hrs before calling "no takers"

 

+1 i just got home workin 12 hours

 

haha i subpose, i just saw that 5 people looked at it and nobody responded.

Jake

 

Sounds like fun would be interested in going. Keep us updated on wen you plan on going.

 

will do. next week is a little to early, im thinking maybe the second sunday of oct. which would land on the 14th, tell me if thats ok with everybody.

Jake

PS, still have to think of a place to meet..maybe perkins off of 35 like we did for the wings and wheels show. im also borrowing a navigation from my dad so ill make sure they're will be no highway driving, just curvy roads.

 

id go for a cruise but i dont know about goin way up there. hey you were the one with the black z chrome rims, we went to get your boys car after the car show?

 

nope that wasn't me. i know who your talking about though. i was the one with the smoked tails, no rims, no mods ..haha, i just bought the car like 2 months ago, im waiting for the winter to come so i can start tearing the engine apart.

Jake

 

hope you are WELL versed in engine assembly. this motor is not for the novice, begginer, or intermediate mechanic.

I just went through a full rebuild and can tell you that unless you have the dough for a new motor, know a machine shop that will do the work for you, or just flat out don't care if it runs, you better just take your car to a reputable shop and have them call you when it is done.

What are you planning for your car? have you priced out everything out? I won't even tell you what I have in my car but let's just say I could have bought a brand new loaded 07 nismo as a daily driver and still had money left over for mods.

 

im a pretty good machanic, im gunna say an expert but im good. my dad used to own Carl's tire And Auto services down in crystal, its been in the family for 50 years, he just sold it two years ago. i worked there since i was 14. ive also built a B18c5 from the ground up with some help, not much experiance with the VQ but im sure ill get her down.. when i say im gunna tear it down, i dont mean it literally by myself, im just gunna install the iso thermal 1/2'' plenum spacer, and the mrev2 manifold from motordyne (simple stuff), and have somebody give it a port and polish. im probibly gunna end up putting the nismo exhaust and other nismo goodies on it, plus a set of r1 racing rims and BFG KDW's for now. than save up for the APS TT kit or a pro-charger supercharger for the year after.

Jake

 

like Zivman said this is a complex motor, i myself have successfully torn my motor apart fixed and reassembled and it was no easy process in doing it. Be sure you have the complete service guide for the 350z it will help you out tremendously.. I bought the actuall service book for $310 but you can get it on a CD on ebay for cheap.. BUT if you're going to go TT save your money on the nismo exhaust cause you wont be able to use it or on the Single turbo setup.

 

oh i know, you have to do a turbo back. its just im really contemplating about doing FI or all motor. i just want to do the nismo exhaust for ****s i guess even though its a waist of $1,200 if i do go the other route. If i end up doing FI (probibly two years from now) ill sell the exhaust and try and get some money out of it.

Jake

 

you need to do some research before spending any dollars. "all motor" is a waste of $ and effort unless you are happy with a car that sounds faster. and with the TT Z scenario, it isn't about a "turbo back exhaust" it is about an exhaust that has adequate flow for the turbos

 

im not saying it isnt a waste of money. ive heard you will probibly only get 300whp out of an all motor set up vs 427whp out of a aps tt that runs $8k. im just saying that because i will probibly end up getting the next gen Z in 2011 so to me theres no point dumping 12k into a car that i will be getting rid of in 4 years. like i said i havent made up my mind for what im going to be doing. and for your research comment, ive been doing resarch on the car and research on the performance mods for the car 2 years before i even bought it. a n/a exhaust wouldnt work on a FI car not just because of the adequate flow, but also becuase you would use a turbo manifold instead of a exhaust manifold (headers). i dont know why exactly your critisizing me, its kinda stupid.

Jake

 

Not critisizing. helping. You will get to 300 whp only with a completely built N/A setup - raised compression, cams, head work, etc. Bolt ons will not get you there, not even close.

you have no clue what you are talking about in terms of exhaust on a TT Z. the TT setups for the Z all retain stock mounting of the cats and thus, retain use of stock exhaust. The turbo manifolds and such all are included with the kit. You could run any catback on the market with your TT Z... but you need one that flows properly

 

thats exactly what i said...i said an all motor will get you about 300whp, i didnt say bolt on's would.

what ever dude. its not even worth my time.

 

And my response is...
you are a teenager and have had the car for a very short time. I have had the car over 3 yrs now, been down the road of N/A. Been down the road of a TT on stock block. Been down the road of a ST on stock block. Been down the road of TT on built block and now recently again with a rebuild of that block. I have installed turbo kits and assisted with motor assembly. The Z is not comparable to other cars you may have had or may have worked on. It is an entity with paramaters and limits all its own.

Edit: have you even seen a modified Z33 in person??? ever seen a boosted Z33?? meet up with Steve and the rest of us today and you can check out my car and get an idea of what is all involved.

 

haha zivmans imput, i miss u on the redline forum haha didnt see u guys at hin i was in the far back corner.. BTW jake dont take zivmans words as critisizm (spelling, i'm F'in tired right now) he's just tryin to help you a little bit, but it's your decision and you dont have to listen if you dont want to but he'll always have an opinion. But like zivman said n/a sux... Go turbo forget S/C for the same price of a supercharger you could get the APS single turbo and run on stock internals.. I know Blake has a ST Z and drives it like he stole it and hasnt had any problems and he's doin over 400hp????? i believe... BTW how is blake doin heard he was on crutches??

 

Blake needs a new set of wheels. hasn't driven his car in a while though due to some medical issues, but once he gets some wheels he is OK to drive now.

We did see your car there, I stopped and chatted with a fellow from my home town right in front of your car and really didn't see anyone round that looked they were part of your club.

Anyways, Jake is a dreamer IMHO. He can say I am critisizing and have hard feelings about my comments, but that is on him. I know how it is to have a new toy and have all these future plans for it. You have good intentions on following through with those plans until you find out how much they cost, how much time and effort are involved, and the risk involved. Just go look through the member list on this site; how many have a SC/Turbo/Twin turbo setup as a future planned modification....... and then how many follow through with it. If he does follow through, more power to him, best of luck, and I would be willing to help out if issues arise. That said, a bunch of talk on a forum like this is doesn't put a tt setup on his car