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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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Just got back from a dyno session with a buddy of mine. Dyno was done at JER in orange county. They did a great job and was very knowledgable.

Dyno was done on a dyno dynamics.
Here are my mods:
- k&n drop in
- 5/16 spacer
- mrev2
- crawford hfc
- hks hi power

I ended up getting pretty good numbers... 239.2HP/~275TQ(flywheel)
Engine heat really affected my peak hp numbers, it decreased with each run. So on the last run we let the car idled for 10-15 mins and got the highest reading.

My buddy has an 07 335i with only a Juice Box Stage 2 chip.
He dynoed at 274.7HP/~390TQ(flywheel)

We were all shocked at my buddy's torque... it was insanely high.

Anyways below are the graphs, let me know what u guys think. How are my numbers?

These are my 4 runs
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This was my tq run. (disregard the 3 bottom graphs, those were wrong)
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This is my buddy's last run and torque
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Buddy's first three pulls
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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this is why the bmw 135 is my next car, things are beastly

what type of dyno was that? never seen that program
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Old Mar 8, 2008 | 01:51 PM
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dyno dynamics http://www.dyno.com.au/dyno/controller

please correct me if i'm wrong, they are supposed to read lower than most other dynos out there.
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Old Mar 13, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Don't mess with a 335. You can't win.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 03:31 AM
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^exactly...
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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ya you can. dont be afraid of 335i's and e46 m3's. theyre not that fast. over rated cars when stock. heres a vid of my friends 06 z with pop charger, mrev, spacer, and gutted cats against an e46 m3 that gets the jump http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...ump_119221.htm . of course this is all on a closed course
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GGGGGGGG
Don't mess with a 335. You can't win.
Not true. If the 335i weighed 3200lbs like a Z, and dynoed 270WHP, then there's no contest. But when the car weighs 3575-3600lbs (375-400lbs more) and dynos 30HP more, it's about a dead heat, since all that power is negated by weight.

Edit: And the hardtop convertibles are just flat out pigs, weighing 4000lbs. Any stock Z would walk a stock 335i hardtop.

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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by GrayG35
ya you can. dont be afraid of 335i's and e46 m3's. theyre not that fast. over rated cars when stock. heres a vid of my friends 06 z with pop charger, mrev, spacer, and gutted cats against an e46 m3 that gets the jump http://videos.streetfire.net/video/F...ump_119221.htm . of course this is all on a closed course
Good video. It's even MORE impressive considering there was a passenger in the Z.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Arnold K.
Not true. If the 335i weighed 3200lbs like a Z, and dynoed 270WHP, then there's no contest. But when the car weighs 3575-3600lbs (375-400lbs more) and dynos 30HP more, it's about a dead heat, since all that power is negated by weight.

Edit: And the hardtop convertibles are just flat out pigs, weighing 4000lbs. Any stock Z would walk a stock 335i hardtop.
Have you ever ran a 335i? Despite the weight, the 335i is a good deal faster. The 335i will start to pull rather hard at ~80mph and above.

Stock for stock, the '03-06Zs are no match, but the '07-08s make for a decent race.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by GGGGGGGG
Don't mess with a 335. You can't win.
well duh! N/A v6 vs. twin turbo straight six which would explain the high torque. Although the 335i does the 1/4 in only 13.3, which isn't much faster than a stock Z.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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335i will own a 03-06Z.

Go drive one and tell me i'm lying
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
Have you ever ran a 335i? Despite the weight, the 335i is a good deal faster. The 335i will start to pull rather hard at ~80mph and above.

Stock for stock, the '03-06Zs are no match, but the '07-08s make for a decent race.

Yes, I have. Two of them. A hardtop vert, and a regular. I beat the hardtop with only a few mods, and I edged out the regular coupe (which was stock) with my current mods from a highway roll to 100. They aren't as lightning fast as people claim they are.

Just look at their 1/4 mile trap speeds(101-104MPH), nothing terribly different than what a well driven Z can do.
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Well mods change things. I'd be interested on how you did in a run well over a 100.

While driving a stock '06 against a stock 335i, I can make it somewhat close from a dig up to around 100 or so, but on third gear rolls, there's no chance. The 335i quickly gets a few car lengths and keeps pulling. Trap speeds are good indicators, but they don't tell the whole story.

They're not lightning fast, but faster still. Once they get modded though, it's game over. It's been mentioned before, but a Z would require FI to match a modded 335i.
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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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stock they can be beat with a slightly modded 03-06. once the 335i is modded it has the potential to run anywhere from high 12's to high 11's. depending on tune and if he gets the dp's, exhaust, and intake
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Originally Posted by Sensi09
Well mods change things. I'd be interested on how you did in a run well over a 100.

While driving a stock '06 against a stock 335i, I can make it somewhat close from a dig up to around 100 or so, but on third gear rolls, there's no chance. The 335i quickly gets a few car lengths and keeps pulling. Trap speeds are good indicators, but they don't tell the whole story.

They're not lightning fast, but faster still. Once they get modded though, it's game over. It's been mentioned before, but a Z would require FI to match a modded 335i.
Yeah, I wouldn't dare mess with a 335i that has any sort of engine management work done: PROcede, Vishnu, etc. It'd be a waste of gas. LOL
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comparing a nissan and a bmw.......

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Old Mar 15, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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I saw a stock 335i run 14's couldn't tell if it was an automatic. Temp was 70F.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 04:42 PM
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Those #'s seem fair for JER's dyno. My 03 with popcharger/Borla put down 219.5whp there a few months ago. A stock 04 or 05 did around 210.
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 10:10 PM
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i love the new 335is =( wish i could have one ALONG with my z =D
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TT vs NA??
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