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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 03:02 AM
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hi all ,
i need help in here ,my mod`s are in my sig and it`s AT ,i toke my Z to see how much power i gained from my base dayno (which it was also soo low 212 WHP) .
my dyno numbers came 223.77 WHP
are thouse numbers normal ?? so disappointed-daniar.jpg
p.s: i did dyno with aftermarket exhaust (APS2.5 TD) the numbers are 233

seeking help and advice what is wrong with my Z ?
and if Osiris would help , what should i look for in the map`s that i order ?
(e-tune ,coz we don`t have any one in here knows how to tune a 350Z with Osiris)
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:39 AM
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If you are not happy find another dyno. You’ll get more horsepower.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:59 AM
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You gained over 20whp without an exhaust, 30whp with an exhaust and you're disappointed? Probably time to invest in a different kind of car. Either that, or it's time to understand HOW a dyno is important and how to evaluate the results. The final #'s are essentially useless, it's all about the gains. If all you want is a high #, and you don't care that the mods you put on do anything, there are any # of cars out there that will satisfy that need
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:02 AM
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That's some pretty nice gains when compared to your previous numbers.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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the AF looks spot on. might be some gains from advancing the timing but proly not worth a full on tune. find someone with a Cipher and bump the timing 2 degrees and call it a day with that car.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:37 AM
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you toke your z? lol, gotta get your delta-9 tetrahydracannabinols somehow

but seriously, the $ to hp ratio on the z is awful...If you want cheap power, get a civic (or a supra if you've got money). I actually find a 30(ish) hp bumb from your bolt-ons quite impressive. Learn to love the car not only for its hp#'s, but for the exceptional handling and overall funnesstivity to drive.

If you can't find that enjoyment, I am actually seriously recommending an srt-8 charger to you; it has the high numbers and ridiculous straight-line torque you seem to be craving. Just keep in mind you should never take a corner at over 20mph haha...
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:38 AM
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also, if these are all the mods you'll be doing, you may find the dyno and butt-dyno gains of an ECU flash "eyebrow-raising" to say the least.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 09:00 AM
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Your running a little lean in the mid range.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:24 PM
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Rickdogg, str8dum1, freedonutss : thank you for the helpful posts i`ll see about the AF.

Z1 Performance, 350ztttt : i wish someone would tell me where i went wrong with my post ,all i said is my #`s are low ,in here i saw many Z`s stock there #`s are higher than my HP with all my mod`s ,am i wright ?
so i thought i should ask to see what went wrong and how to fix it or this is normal ? and as far as i see in here it`s all about #`s and how much you gain from mod`s or how much is your 1/4m time ...., and if you see how much should i get from my mods it would be much more than 20 WHP over all .
and befor you give me an English lesson or tell me what to ride try to learn how to count, and say somethin usfull

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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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If you have the DE motor, those HP numbers are fine.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 04:47 PM
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You are running lean throughout but particularly in the midrange (as someone esle posted). No need to jump on other users....this is a forum and frankly they are correct, 20 wheel horsepower from those mods is very solid. There are several different reasons why your numbers could be low. Could be as simple as an incorrect correction on the dyno. 233 through an auto is not that bad. Figure you are going to lose about 2-4% more power to the wheels as opposed to 6sp cars. Yes, Osiris would help your car out immensely from the look of your chart. Don't be dismayed your car is fine.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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I also thought my numbers were low but it depends on how the dyno is calibrated. I was dyno tuned with Osiris on a dynojet but the shops dynojet is known to read pretty low. Dont be discouraged with numbers tho its all about what you can do at the track. Also, at idle you want your a/f to be around 14.3-14.6 and at WOT you want to be around 12.9-13.3.
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You also have an AT, which has a bit more loss than all they dynos you are referring to from 6MTs.
BTW, where is the TQ? BTW2, dynos should plot HP and TQ vs RPM with AFR. Anything else, IMO, isn't worth paying for. Sometimes the TQ curve changes are more important than the peak HP changes!
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Darkness75
Rickdogg, str8dum1, freedonutss : thank you for the helpful posts i`ll see about the AF.

Z1 Performance, 350ztttt : i wish someone would tell me where i went wrong with my post ,all i said is my #`s are low ,in here i saw many Z`s stock there #`s are higher than my HP with all my mod`s ,am i wright ?
so i thought i should ask to see what went wrong and how to fix it or this is normal ? and as far as i see in here it`s all about #`s and how much you gain from mod`s or how much is your 1/4m time ...., and if you see how much should i get from my mods it would be much more than 20 WHP over all .
and befor you give me an English lesson or tell me what to ride try to learn how to count, and say somethin usfull
That's just it, your #'s are not low at all. They are exactly where they should be. Do not worry that your car "only" shows 213 whp stock and others show more. The #'s are basically meaningless - the gains are what is important. You installed mods and gained a significant amount of power - that means it was money well spent. If you were expecting more power relative to the minor mods you installed, then you were misinformed. The gains you got are exactly what one can reasonably expect from the mods you installed
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
You are running lean throughout but particularly in the midrange (as someone esle posted). No need to jump on other users....this is a forum and frankly they are correct, 20 wheel horsepower from those mods is very solid. There are several different reasons why your numbers could be low. Could be as simple as an incorrect correction on the dyno. 233 through an auto is not that bad. Figure you are going to lose about 2-4% more power to the wheels as opposed to 6sp cars. Yes, Osiris would help your car out immensely from the look of your chart. Don't be dismayed your car is fine.
Its more like 8%

OP...there is a member with the screen name "small tuner" who is also in Kuwait and seems pretty knowledgeable. You may want to shoot him a PM, maybe he could help you out.

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Close enough......its less efficient, thats the message I was trying to put out to the OP.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Close enough......its less efficient, thats the message I was trying to put out to the OP.
Agreed
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dyno's are for tuning not d#ck measuring. Take it to the drag strip and true power is always displayed in mph. Setup and driving is displayed in et. Have you taken it to the track if it turns horrible mph then ya its week but if it rips the dyno was a heartbreaker get over it like that hot chick that was out of your league anyway that you caught making out with your friend at a party. Ya I am drunk and posting its a party on my laptop.
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Originally Posted by 1cockyZ
dyno's are for tuning not d#ck measuring. Take it to the drag strip and true power is always displayed in mph. Setup and driving is displayed in et. Have you taken it to the track if it turns horrible mph then ya its week but if it rips the dyno was a heartbreaker get over it like that hot chick that was out of your league anyway that you caught making out with your friend at a party. Ya I am drunk and posting its a party on my laptop.
Great Post.
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Old Apr 11, 2009 | 09:41 PM
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Why are they using a DIN correction factor?
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