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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Several locals are pushing 270whp+ dynojet with basic bolt ons and a good uprev tune. An exhaust alone isn't going to cut it.

There are definitely gains to be had, but it takes the right mods and the right tune.

I don't think you'll be happy with the haltech on an n/a engine, as it probably won't drive like stock;there are too many tuning parameters to get 'exact' whereas with uprev you are basically working off the stock map.
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:21 PM
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Does dyno show higher or lower? I have 271WHP with pretty close to all the NA boltons.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 04:25 AM
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271WHP right here too
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:41 AM
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I got 259 on mustang dyno with only exhaust.. You 271 guys, with what mods?
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Rev-up motor
apexi intake
MREV2 & 5/16 spacer
labree resonated test pipes
XYZ pipe with resonator (now running straight pipe)
exoticspeed R1-T (3 inch single with dual mufflers)
and of course a dyno uprev tune
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:47 AM
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Injen Cai, Motordyne MREV2, 5/16th spacer, ARTs, XYZ with resonator, TB coolant delete, Jet hotted headers, Agency Power Ti, Quaife with 4.083s

Oh yeah, uprev.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:49 AM
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cabrio looks to have very similar mods by looking at his signature.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:50 AM
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haha beat me to it. how do you like those gears man?
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Love them, car feels much faster off the line than the power would indicate.
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Originally Posted by f-350z
I got 259 on mustang dyno with only exhaust.. You 271 guys, with what mods?
what year is your Z? do you have an HR?
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by e30cabrio
Love them, car feels much faster off the line than the power would indicate.
how about everyday driving? any regrets?
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None on the Quaife or 4.08, the solid diff bushings are noisy on the freeway and the exhaust is insanely loud even with a removable silencer.

I am mostly used to it. My Wife hates it. lol
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by viceversa
what year is your Z? do you have an HR?
07 model HR
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by djamps
Several locals are pushing 270whp+ dynojet with basic bolt ons and a good uprev tune. An exhaust alone isn't going to cut it.

There are definitely gains to be had, but it takes the right mods and the right tune.

I don't think you'll be happy with the haltech on an n/a engine, as it probably won't drive like stock;there are too many tuning parameters to get 'exact' whereas with uprev you are basically working off the stock map.
Even if I installed the haltech and have problems in normal daily driving (partial throttel), haltech has copy through function that can copy through the factory ecu maps bypassing the haltech

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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by f-350z
i really appreciate your comment..

but depends on my poor knowledge, n/a setup is all about proper breathing setup + cams + con rods + pistons. so as i mentioned earlier that i have a plan to get the GTM SC, i still can make use of my N/A setup (except the intakes off course)

i know that n/a builds cant go further than certain numbers, but who knows, maybe i will be satisfied with the gain
The problem is N/a builds and engines are setup completely different than FI so you would be wasting tons of money if you are going FI in the future.

also, any decent cams plus the install will be at least half of the cost of a turbo kit so why waste money on something when you can just save a little longer and just go FI?

Cams truthfully are a huge waste of money for our applications. It's the least gain for cost out of any mod we could do. also, it would be a HORRIBLE idea to tear a block down and build an N/a build then go FI. You'll need higher compression to make good use of an n/a build and you will want lower compression to make a strong FI motor.
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
The problem is N/a builds and engines are setup completely different than FI so you would be wasting tons of money if you are going FI in the future.

also, any decent cams plus the install will be at least half of the cost of a turbo kit so why waste money on something when you can just save a little longer and just go FI?

Cams truthfully are a huge waste of money for our applications. It's the least gain for cost out of any mod we could do. also, it would be a HORRIBLE idea to tear a block down and build an N/a build then go FI. You'll need higher compression to make good use of an n/a build and you will want lower compression to make a strong FI motor.
i agree with you regarding the different setup between N/A and FI

but on the other hand, FI is a headach for me. considering the weather in summer (54 C), plus rules here are very restrictive when renewing my car (living in UAE/Dubai)

in addition to that, i love hitting the track a lot, which is the reason why im building an N/A engine.

with regards to installation charges, how about paying 275$ as charges to install coilovers+EDFC controller+brake rotors+pads+under braces+fender braces ?

how about paying 435$ as charges to install heat wrapped headers+test pipes+catback + engine oil cooler+tranny oil cooler+replacing the whole pumpkin?

installing a turbo kit wont cost me more 950$

arent they fair prices?

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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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beats me i do all my own installs lol
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by f-350z
with regards to installation charges, how about paying 275$ as charges to install coilovers+EDFC controller+brake rotors+pads+under braces+fender braces ?

how about paying 435$ as charges to install heat wrapped headers+test pipes+catback + engine oil cooler+tranny oil cooler+replacing the whole pumpkin?

installing a turbo kit wont cost me more 950$

arent they fair prices?

you said CAMS. Cam installation is a 12hr rate job in the nissan book because the whle front of the engine and timing cover has to come off. That plus the 2000$ for the cost of cams that are worth buying is going to be near 3000$. Like i said, putting cams in is a waste for an n/a build or even an FI build under 600hp.
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by binder
you said CAMS. Cam installation is a 12hr rate job in the nissan book because the whle front of the engine and timing cover has to come off. That plus the 2000$ for the cost of cams that are worth buying is going to be near 3000$. Like i said, putting cams in is a waste for an n/a build or even an FI build under 600hp.
putting 272 Tomei CAMS will lower my compression ratio, which is helpful in FI application.

regarding the cost, Tomei Cams (1180$) + Valve Springs (382$) + shipping to my place (around 200$) will cost approx. 1762$ and if i consider adding installation charges, 300 -350 $ only

i got your point that N/A build is way more expensive than FI, and will never hit more than 350 whp. but i dont want any source of headache by going into TT setup. im in the researching stage of getting the SC kit, so i might go for it as its less headache.

FI vs N/A arguing will never end my friend but i can assure you that its a personal preference.
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 03:50 AM
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Cams dont lower your compression. They're also not a waste on NA at all, unless your only goal is to go on the highway and mash the right pedal. But you should have bought a supra for that.
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