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Old 01-23-2017, 05:27 PM
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So I've just started looking into engine management. I've done the bolt ons in my signature and plan on getting the car dynotuned soon. If I was going to be doing upgrades part by part instead of in waves, or if I had the need to switch tunes back and forth, I could see the benefit of a controller and/or e-tuning, but don't really see the point in going that route at this time. The most I have seen is that I MIGHT be able to get launch control, but I'm not even sure about that at this point.

Am I missing something or am I better off just sticking to a plain old dynotune? Is there some functionality a controller can offer me that a dynotune can't with just bolt ons?
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a dyno tune is specific to your car, not a generic one. my tuner gave me 5 different banks when he tuned it. i am sure yours could do something similar, or to what you request

1. 93 octane gas
2. 91 octane gas
3. cruising - wont go over 70 mph
4. valet - wont go over 20 mph
5. kill - wont start at all
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Originally Posted by travlee
a dyno tune is specific to your car, not a generic one. my tuner gave me 5 different banks when he tuned it. i am sure yours could do something similar, or to what you request

1. 93 octane gas
2. 91 octane gas
3. cruising - wont go over 70 mph
4. valet - wont go over 20 mph
5. kill - wont start at all
I'm guessing you can change these on the fly. So out of curiosity, what's the power difference between your 91 and 93 octane tunes?

Is there a budget budget controller that there seems to be a general consensus on? Alot of the threads on the subject are older and I'm not sure if something new and great has come out since.

Coming from a Subaru years ago, I always thought about the Cobb Accessport in the back of my mind, but it looks like they don't make one for my Z (HRs only) but stuck with open source tuning and bought a netbook. IIRC, on the Subarus, the Accessport just stayed plugged into the OBDII connector so installation was simple.
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Ok so it looks like there are some places that still have the Cobb Accessport for the DE engines in stock. Still debating if I want something like this, but wondering if there is a good alternative for under $1000.
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Originally Posted by Sebastian777
Ok so it looks like there are some places that still have the Cobb Accessport for the DE engines in stock. Still debating if I want something like this, but wondering if there is a good alternative for under $1000.
I know where one is for a good price :-)

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Originally Posted by Sebastian777
So I've just started looking into engine management. I've done the bolt ons in my signature and plan on getting the car dynotuned soon. If I was going to be doing upgrades part by part instead of in waves, or if I had the need to switch tunes back and forth, I could see the benefit of a controller and/or e-tuning, but don't really see the point in going that route at this time. The most I have seen is that I MIGHT be able to get launch control, but I'm not even sure about that at this point.

Am I missing something or am I better off just sticking to a plain old dynotune? Is there some functionality a controller can offer me that a dynotune can't with just bolt ons?
We can dial-in your car with Osiris Standard. You will need a Windows Based Laptop. http://uprev.com/secure/store/manage...siris-standard
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You're coming from Subaru's and don't know about UTEC?
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Originally Posted by iideadeyeii
You're coming from Subaru's and don't know about UTEC?
I have heard of UTEC, but never made it that far with my Legacy. Did an opensource Stage 1 tune, was considering the Accessport.
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Originally Posted by Mike@UpRev
We can dial-in your car with Osiris Standard. You will need a Windows Based Laptop. http://uprev.com/secure/store/manage...siris-standard
Today I found out my tuner, Dynosty in Louisville, KY, uses UpRev to tune. So I'm guessing my engine management will be that. My $618 tuning quote includes the UpRev license.

I guess now my question is, if I only have the one tune, can I still use my car's cruise control? What about if I have multiple tunes?

As far as multiple tunes, what would be good to have? I see travlee's list of 5 tunes he has.

I don't see the need for a valet tune (I never use valets), and I'm not sure what the point is of a "cruising - won't go over 70" tune is other than if you have kids, which I don't.

On a 91 octane tune, is there a noticeable power loss? What does this do to MPG? Do people with this find they use it often or most of the time?

The kill tune is interesting, could possibly use this.

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Your Cruise Control will continue to work normally.
The difference from 91-93 is minimal.
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Originally Posted by travlee
a dyno tune is specific to your car
and specific to your location

a dyno tune is your best bet

Originally Posted by Sebastian777
My $618 tuning quote includes the UpRev license.
sounds about right ... my tune (upcoming) tune is $700 @ mac autosports (well know shop in south denver)

Originally Posted by Sebastian777
On a 91 octane tune, is there a noticeable power loss? What does this do to MPG? Do people with this find they use it often or most of the time?
Sebastian - read into what octane is and what role it plays on timing ... on paper 91 octane will produce less power and subsequently will have lower fuel efficiency but in reality you'll never notice...

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Update. Car was Dyno tuned. Dynosty uses UpRev to tune. Car now makes 271 whp on dyno jet. Only got a 93 octane tune.
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Originally Posted by Sebastian777
Update. Car was Dyno tuned. Dynosty uses UpRev to tune. Car now makes 271 whp on dyno jet. Only got a 93 octane tune.
nice, what mods ?
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Originally Posted by TimeToMakeGains
nice, what mods ?
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The before graph is with the mods and no tune. My car was running very lean before the tune. Glad I parked it between bolt ons and tuning. Tuner said it probably wouldn't have been a big deal just driving around, but running hard much could have caused some damage.




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