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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by ChrisMCagle
I just took a look at that zeitronix unit. I assume you have the Zt-2? Shoot! I was hoping that it would have a regular RCA output so that I could hook it up to my DVD screen. I saw the "analog output", but didn't really understand what it is for. All it shows is a graph? Is it to hook up to the SAFC (or eManage in my case)?

Does anyone know of an A/F gauge that has an RCA type video output?

-Chris
YEah Zt-2 is the one I got, along with their LCD display. The analog output is so you can connect it to your emanage to log the readouts. Data info. I dont have a stand-alone unit, so Im using its USB to log the graph, or numbers into my labtop. And use that info to adjust my A/F to different RPMs. Maybe theres a converter that you can buy for analog > RCA? Im not sure.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:11 AM
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More info on ECU reflashing...

http://www.technosquareinc.com/350z.htm
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Most cars make full power once the throttle plate is open more than halfway anways, I find it hard to believe being open only 85% loses any power. Drive a cable throttle car on the freeway in 4th or 5th gear, give it 3/4 throttle for a few seconds and then floor it.. you won't feel much of a difference. Noise may increase, but that's about it, on most cars that is. Chances are having it open 100% has some weird side effect (noise, turbulance etc) or it's just a design method and it was deemed not neccessary to open 100%. Look at an Altima, G35, Maxima or anything else that uses the VQ35 and compare. Then again, you can't drive or operate the engine with the intake pipe removed, so I don't know how you'd tell. You're not going to go from 287 to 295hp by opening the throttle plate a few degrees.. Everyone has these preconceived notions that car manufacturers "hide" hp so in a few years they can magically upgrade the HP level.

I'd probably seen 25-30 people dyno with SAFCs and none of them have ever gained power on N/A applications. They either screwed up their powerband and created spikes or wavy graphs, or "gained" 1-2hp, which is within a margin of error for a chassis dyno anyways. If nothing else, I'd go with a TS ECU for reliability concerns.. having a spliced wire break, the SAFC break, someone messing with the settings or i know it's hard to admit, you not knowing how to tune a car to begin with, worries me more than having an upgraded ECU installed and working like factory. Jim Wolf Technology ECUs are the standard for older Nissans for this very reason. Then there are always a few stubborn "tuners" who have read a lot of books that think they can tune the ECU better than TS or JWT, but they just end up doing nothing or messing stuff up.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by phoenixZ33
You're not going to go from 287 to 295hp by opening the throttle plate a few degrees
100% correct. But combined with other things it can.

Originally posted by phoenixZ33
Everyone has these preconceived notions that car manufacturers "hide" hp so in a few years they can magically upgrade the HP level.
I will neither deny or concur, but lets just say you would be surprised.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by VandyZ
100% correct. But combined with other things it can.

I will neither deny or concur, but lets just say you would be surprised.
VandyZ,

I see in your signature it says "Thoughts and Prayers Tadashi". What's up with tadashi? Did something happen to him??

-Chris
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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VandyZ,

I see in your signature it says "Thoughts and Prayers Tadashi". What's up with tadashi? Did something happen to him??

-Chris
He had a scare from what I understand was some minor blood clotting in the optical / brain area.

I heard today that he is doing fine, which is great news.
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:30 PM
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Question for people with the TS reflash

If you have say

Headers
High Flow Cats
Cat Back exhaust system ( Borla, injen )
Plenum ( Crawford, Kinetix )
Pulley

What should i expect additional in HP with the reflash haveing the above mods.

Thanks for you time

Laterz
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by aceman
Question for people with the TS reflash

If you have say

Headers
High Flow Cats
Cat Back exhaust system ( Borla, injen )
Plenum ( Crawford, Kinetix )
Pulley

What should i expect additional in HP with the reflash haveing the above mods.

Thanks for you time

Laterz
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Realistically between 3 and 10 wheel HP at different RPMs
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by VandyZ
He had a scare from what I understand was some minor blood clotting in the optical / brain area.

I heard today that he is doing fine, which is great news.
Oh $hit!!! That's no good, but I'm glad to hear that he's doing ok!
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 04:22 PM
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So if you had diffrent parts from diffrent companies you would still trust TS to have a accurate flash for you????
I have parts from injen/crawford and kinetix....

And does there limited flash cost less?????
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Old Jul 15, 2004 | 04:42 PM
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So if you had diffrent parts from diffrent companies you would still trust TS to have a accurate flash for you????
I have parts from injen/crawford and kinetix....

And does there limited flash cost less?????
Well, I don't think that they are really "brand specific", but more "mod specific" in other words Exhaust, headers, intake as opposed to Injen Exhaust, Crawford Headers, and JWT Pop Charger intake.

I'm not too sure what you mean by "limited flash". I think that it's about $600 for them to flash your ECU and then $125 for any future re-flashes you might need/want. That's the main reason for going with a Piggy-back unit. It's cheaper up front AND in the long run. Sure there are a couple things that you don't get the advantage of (rev limit raised, ect.) but that's fine with me for the money I'm saving.

-Chris

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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 05:08 AM
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limited flash is 300 for the rev limit, speed limit, and throttle opening fix but no af or timing tweaks
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by PoWeRtRiP
limited flash is 300 for the rev limit, speed limit, and throttle opening fix but no af or timing tweaks
That sounds pretty reasonable. Which is exactly what I need. All fixes except any tuning. But I do hate to wait for the return time on the flash...
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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i plan on getting it done in the near future. but 3 days is a long time with no car
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Phatmitzu, what wait time? We're local to them -- just drive over there and get it done in <20 minutes!
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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Phatmitzu, what wait time? We're local to them -- just drive over there and get it done in <20 minutes!
Oh? I didnt know that! I thought it was required for them the keep the ECU for a bit...

So its just plug in, upload, unplug, DONE!?
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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so how much would it be for them to increase my rev limiter, speed limiter and throttle opening and to also reflash for my mods? As I understand it I'm running quite lean from my current mods.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by zxsaint
Phatmitzu, what wait time? We're local to them -- just drive over there and get it done in <20 minutes!
Exactly! Just go there and wait a little while for it. Worst case scenario is that they have to yank out the ECU and do the flash on the workbench. I think that is what happened to Joe (all_bark) when we were there. Apparently the process is not as simple as just plugging in the ECU to a computer and programming it, it has to be "unlocked" which I believe takes the most time. Also there has to be a consistant power source or else... no more ECU.

$300 for the main fixes is not bad. I might do that myself since I've got the eManage to adjust my A/F.

-Chris
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 01:50 PM
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Originally posted by x350Zx
so how much would it be for them to increase my rev limiter, speed limiter and throttle opening and to also reflash for my mods? As I understand it I'm running quite lean from my current mods.
You would be looking at a full flash for $595.
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Old Jul 16, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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hm does anyone know if technosquare also has a dyno onsite? I would love to compare my #s on their dyno from the chassis dyno that I dynod my car on.
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