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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:25 AM
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I got a news flash for ya... The HR is already maxed out from the factory. That's why there isn't much stuff for it in the aftermarket.
What are you talking about.

OOOOO the intakes (mind you the 06 box was better than most aftermarkets) and the headers are good.....big deal.

The manifold from a VQ37HR would show gains if they could get it to bolt up, it just doesn't....meaning, there will be intake gains made....for sure.

You're speaking out your ***, there aren't many mods because the engine has been to market <1 year. Companies are SCRAMBLING to get stuff for it.

Listen to the people with the cars, the tuners, etc. the HR is better factory, but far from maxed out.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:29 AM
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It's maxxed out. What you got is pretty much what you get, my friend... The HR has been out for a year now... And still no mods other than cams, test pipes, and cat back exhaust. Intakes do nothing for the HR.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
It's maxxed out. What you got is pretty much what you get, my friend... The HR has been out for a year now... And still no mods other than cams, test pipes, and cat back exhaust. Intakes do nothing for the HR.
Intakes do nothing for any car now-days, except mustangs.

Test pipes and exhaust give 10-20 hp, depending on a lot of things. If an intake manifold in combination frees another 5-10, and tuning is able to pull another 5-10 with those mods. Add a flywheel, gears, and DR's and the car is deep into 12's. I don't understand why you say there aren't mods available or in development. There are plenty of turbos in the works, what more do the DE's have, plenum spacers?

Edit - and if you're so fast, why isn't your name on ANY list here?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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don't even bother arguing he is an idiot. The same thing can be said when Z first came out people said it was maxed out to but you wouldn't know that.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 06:55 AM
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don't even bother arguing he is an idiot. The same thing can be said when Z first came out people said it was maxed out to but you wouldn't know that.
I assume thats not directed at me, and I agree completely. There are so many things you can do that just get missed completely. Example the gains of a flywheel are unseen on a dyno graph, but completely visible in a timeslip.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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I hope you're being sarcastic....
Iv smashed a fellow member on here with a 07 Solar orange Z with bolt ons. And he was a AT so he didnt miss a gear
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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10 or even 20hp dont mean S**T if you cant drive..
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Iv smashed a fellow member on here with a 07 Solar orange Z with bolt ons. And he was a AT so he didnt miss a gear
On or off the bottle?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Peak350
I assume thats not directed at me,
not you it was for ms. smarty pants gothchick (fixed)

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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 2004Black350z
Iv smashed a fellow member on here with a 07 Solar orange Z with bolt ons. And he was a AT so he didnt miss a gear
Yeah, I raced an 07 with boltons last weekend from a dig and a roll. I walked him pretty bad both times.

(I'm a girl BTW)
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gothchick
Yeah, I raced an 07 with boltons last weekend from a dig and a roll. I walked him pretty bad both times.

(I'm a girl BTW)

Alot of the things you are stating is false.

When I got my Z in May 2003 there was ZERO aftermarket for the car. It took a full year before anything became available. The HR hasn't been out for even a year and there is already cams, intake, exhaust, test pipes and ECU tunes.

When I bought my car NONE of those were available for quite some time.

The HR engine is better then the DE in every single way. Besides the forged internals, VVL is one of the most important things. No stand alone has full control of VVL yet, but it's on the way. My DE before FI with zero mods dyno'd 227WHP (No corrections). An HR was dyno'd stock on the dyno with no corrections made 260WHP. That has nothing to do with the new HR headers because all headers are going to do is give you torque down low and very little if any peak HP. Most of it has to do with VVL/Exhaust/Cams.

People will figure out how to extract more HP from the HR soon enough.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by EM-EFER
Alot of the things you are stating is false.

When I got my Z in May 2003 there was ZERO aftermarket for the car. It took a full year before anything became available. The HR hasn't been out for even a year and there is already cams, intake, exhaust, test pipes and ECU tunes.

When I bought my car NONE of those were available for quite some time.

The HR engine is better then the DE in every single way. Besides the forged internals, VVL is one of the most important things. No stand alone has full control of VVL yet, but it's on the way. My DE before FI with zero mods dyno'd 227WHP (No corrections). An HR was dyno'd stock on the dyno with no corrections made 260WHP. That has nothing to do with the new HR headers because all headers are going to do is give you torque down low and very little if any peak HP. Most of it has to do with VVL/Exhaust/Cams.

People will figure out how to extract more HP from the HR soon enough.
oh i love it when you talk geek .. talk dirty to me big boy
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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You realize no 350Z's have VVL yet right?

VVL is in in the G37 and 2009 350z's, not in the 07/08 VQ35HR's.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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^^^ what you know about the 09 Z?
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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^^^ what you know about the 09 Z?
Just what the tech told me when I brought my car in on Friday to get the front end put back together.

I'm not 100% sure on anything because of that, but he said the factory rep's said the 09 is still a Z33 and gets the 3.7, the 2010 is unchanged from 09, and then 2011 is the new chassis.

We'll see, makes sense to me though.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Peak350
Intakes do nothing for any car now-days, except mustangs.

Test pipes and exhaust give 10-20 hp, depending on a lot of things. If an intake manifold in combination frees another 5-10, and tuning is able to pull another 5-10 with those mods. Add a flywheel, gears, and DR's and the car is deep into 12's. I don't understand why you say there aren't mods available or in development. There are plenty of turbos in the works, what more do the DE's have, plenum spacers?

Edit - and if you're so fast, why isn't your name on ANY list here?
now you are using ricer math, please stop. so far ive seen low 13's with mods and drag radials from the HR, which is very respectable. but if you really think you can get drop almost a full second with a few more bolt on's and a tune you are dreaming. the VQ is out of the factory weather its a de, revup or hr is very close to be maxed . this is why we can very very little compared to other cars from our bolt on mods even with a tune. this is reality. 300whp is not enough to hit 12.5's. just look at c5 vettes. they are lighter, have more torque and usually dyno beyond 300whp out of the factory. they arent hitting 12.5's stock with c5's, not even close. and no 12.9's is NOT close to 12.5.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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now you are using ricer math, please stop. so far ive seen low 13's with mods and drag radials from the HR, which is very respectable. but if you really think you can get drop almost a full second with a few more bolt on's and a tune you are dreaming. the VQ is out of the factory weather its a de, revup or hr is very close to be maxed . this is why we can very very little compared to other cars from our bolt on mods even with a tune. this is reality. 300whp is not enough to hit 12.5's. just look at c5 vettes. they are lighter, have more torque and usually dyno beyond 300whp out of the factory. they arent hitting 12.5's stock with c5's, not even close. and no 12.9's is NOT close to 12.5.
Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but if I run a 13.0xx or a 12.9xx stock, why shouldn't I be able to drop .4-.5 off from every good gaining bolt on.

Tires alone should be worth .2, a flywheel another .1-.15 in the 1/8th. Extra power up top will give even more.

I'm not saying everyone will get there, but for a few grand (3-4) most people *could* see 12's, and a few can get solidly into mid 12's.
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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Yeah... I'm committed to staying NA. I really wish there was a less expensive way to extract power from the Z (whether it's a DE, Revup, HR).

I've reached the end of the bolton path, now cams and head work are gonna cost me about $3800 and that's with the core charge taken out, then you got installation $$$.... <sigh>....

Then I gotta start building the lower engine for more compression/ rpms... More $$$... Another <sigh>...

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then it would be 370z

i don't think they will do that
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Old Nov 13, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Peak350
Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but if I run a 13.0xx or a 12.9xx stock, why shouldn't I be able to drop .4-.5 off from every good gaining bolt on.

Tires alone should be worth .2, a flywheel another .1-.15 in the 1/8th. Extra power up top will give even more.

I'm not saying everyone will get there, but for a few grand (3-4) most people *could* see 12's, and a few can get solidly into mid 12's.
if, if, if, so far you need to knock off more then 3th's to hit 13.0. what else you got left to drop another half a second? once again you are using ricer math and its killing me. in any case, i hope you hit your goals, i would be very impressed if you do.
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