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Old 11-02-2008, 09:26 AM
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Default Safe rev limit for 35HR and 37HR

i did a search and nothing popped up as far as i could see. maybe i used the wrong criteria, but anyhow i would like to know a safe rev limit for the HR engines.

can the stock internals in the 35HR and 37HR take 8,000rpms?
ive seen some people on here with I/HFC/catback and tune making 310whp+ on the HR's and i just wanted to know if the higher redline was possible so i could take advantage of the extra 500rpms from headers, and cams. main reason being for FI.

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If you read around you will see cams for the hr are really not worth it as of yet. The HR is a finally tuned machine and not much else really needs to be done to squeeze that horse power out of it. Arsh with headers, test pipes, exhaust and intakes, along with his tune has made great horse power. No cams needed. Talk to him or read his post which is full of information.
Old 11-02-2008, 09:58 AM
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Are you a politician? Thats not even what he asked. Cams arent worth it? How many HR's out there even have changed their cams yet? Keep the **** in your ***, we dont need you to pull it out for us. Anyway Goji, not much has been done with the HR yet besides bolt ons, only this past summer have we started to see the twin turbo kits.
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As you can see here this is Arsh dyno (I hope he is ok with this) the power start to drop after 7000 rpm although his car is full bolt on except cams.


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I don't think it will damage your engine if you use it just in the track.
So will you gain anything? I don't think so..
will it help you? yea.. when you shift, the rpm will drop right to your peak power.
I hope this will help you.
Old 11-02-2008, 01:05 PM
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8000 rpms isnt out of the question. Technosquare's reflash bumps redline up to 8000. This would be benificial if you decide to install headers and cams.

As of right now there aren't any cams that I've seen. I read in a magazine a few months back (in the new parts section that seems to be in every magazine) that Greddy has developed cams for the HR. It isn't posted on their site so Im not 100% sure that it was correct in the magazine.

Even if it is legit, Greddy filed Chapter 11 so who knows if they are going to continue product development for the HR.

In either case, like most aftermarket cams, you're most likely going to sacrifice some bottom end power to make it up at the top end. A higher rev limiter with headers would help add to that top end power.
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Originally Posted by j_greene
8000 rpms isnt out of the question. Technosquare's reflash bumps redline up to 8000. This would be benificial if you decide to install headers and cams.

As of right now there aren't any cams that I've seen. I read in a magazine a few months back (in the new parts section that seems to be in every magazine) that Greddy has developed cams for the HR. It isn't posted on their site so Im not 100% sure that it was correct in the magazine.

Even if it is legit, Greddy filed Chapter 11 so who knows if they are going to continue product development for the HR.

In either case, like most aftermarket cams, you're most likely going to sacrifice some bottom end power to make it up at the top end. A higher rev limiter with headers would help add to that top end power.
Dumbass, Trust/greddy Japan filed for Chapter 11, NOT GREDDY USA!
Old 11-02-2008, 01:24 PM
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Dumbass? Really?

I was just going off what Greddy released.

http://www.greddy.com/news/?id=61
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Originally Posted by midz350
As you can see here this is Arsh dyno (I hope he is ok with this) the power start to drop after 7000 rpm although his car is full bolt on except cams.




I don't think it will damage your engine if you use it just in the track.
So will you gain anything? I don't think so..
will it help you? yea.. when you shift, the rpm will drop right to your peak power.
I hope this will help you.
that helps alot, thank you.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:31 PM
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http://www.chromjuwelen.com/de/partn...-goodness.html

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Good find infinite. Converted as of today it is about 1344 dollars, a little pricey but I would love to see the gains in a car like Arsh's(Hint, hint j/k)
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se let me get this straight.

for 3 grand you get, injen or stillen's new long tube intake.
reflash, headers and cams and 345whp+- if tuned correctly.

all motor. not bad.

not to mention all the other goodies, lightweight flywheel, lightweight driveshaft, underdrive pulley, 4.083 gearing (which im used to in my Z32 right now, and i'll be doing high compression turbo on sooooon)
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Originally Posted by supergoji
se let me get this straight.

for 3 grand you get, injen or stillen's new long tube intake.
reflash, headers and cams and 345whp+- if tuned correctly.

all motor. not bad.

not to mention all the other goodies, lightweight flywheel, lightweight driveshaft, underdrive pulley, 4.083 gearing (which im used to in my Z32 right now, and i'll be doing high compression turbo on sooooon)
Where do you see 345whp?

TK
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Originally Posted by T_K
Where do you see 345whp?

TK
He's pulling numbers out of his ***.
Old 11-06-2008, 07:29 AM
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If someone makes those numbers with cams, i wont be pulling numbers out of my *** now will I?

i saw a few dynos of G37's making 330whp with those mods, so cams should add at least another 15hp.

dont you think that is a little logical in the least?

i mean most people who put cams in their car for more power tend to get at least that much out of them.

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Originally Posted by supergoji
If someone makes those numbers with cams, i wont be pulling numbers out of my *** now will I?

i saw a few dynos of G37's making 330whp with those mods, so cams should add at least another 15hp.

dont you think that is a little logical in the least?

i mean most people who put cams in their car for more power tend to get at least that much out of them.
You can't put different cams in a VHR engine. And considering the extra mass associated with the VVEL hardware, I wouldn't feel comfortable raising the rev limit of the VHR, either.

Really, the VQ35HR and the 37VHR shouldn't even be in the same discussion in terms of bolt-on power and rev capacity. Two very different engines.

Will
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