Are are headers worth getting after full exhaust?? I've herd a lot of different things, good and bad... I herd the hr headers are pretty damn well build and with aftermarket you get either little or no gains.. Maybe after a tune or so.. Just let me know what's up.. Thanks

 

Sorry, for a repost, I'm just using my phone and it's easier this way =\

 

like you said, there is a lot of good and bad about the HR and De headers. Remember getting the headers is the easy part it the labor that is going to coast you the arm and leg. Also, if you do plan to get them, i would heat rape them to get the most gains out of the header.

 

...and you will continue to do so.

 

The reason there are no real gains from headers is because they are shorty headers. They minic the factory headers and do not change the location or size of the factory cats. The factory cat placement has everything to do with emissions. If you have the nerve to run with test pipes, step up to the plate and get long tube headers.

 

 

uh, no actually, that isn't why at all

a "long tube" is not automatically better...or even longer, than a short tube with a test pipe. It's strictly a marketing term

 

....and the debate continues.

Anyone know if there are "long tube" headers made for the 350z HR? I see Fast Intentions makes them for the 370z.

 

none that are "over the counter"

you would have to have a set custom made

 

If you want every horsepower you can get out of your NA car, then you want them. They are a lot of work to install, and the gains are small. Ceramic coating is a better solution than heat tape for a street car. I would do it again, but I can be a bit extreme in this way.....

 

^^^^ I agree if your trying to net all the obtainable HP possible out of an NA setup headers are a must have. I never wrapped mine and now regret it. I think this fall just before I take the car off the road I will go over to my friends shop and remove the headers so that I can wrap them. Lower my under hood temps and possibly net an extra Pony or two!

They are not that bad to install. I removed my headers with the cats still bolted to them.....

Zim

 

Stock HR headers aren't bad, but there is room for improvement. The head-pipes are flattened in some areas, and the collector area is not that great ( Tomei headers used for comparison ).

 

what??? Tomei makes headers for HR ?? Since when?

 

There not for a HR. There for a DE. All you have to do is move one of the studs around and they fit the HR. It's real simple.

See Pic

 

That is correct sir. The bolt holes are already on the block. You have to use the test pipe as well for it to mate up to the cat-back.

 

^ thank you

 

+1 ceramic coating works well

 

wait just to understand this more...so any header for a de will also fit a hr just by moving the studs around

and the stud hole is already on the block?

 

Got em, love em, it's faster and louder, and untuned so it'll only get even better.

 

got em with hfc's, y, pipe, and a single though, so it felt waaaay faster, cant tell what did what haha.