and will rub like crazy out back (I had em) unless you basically cut the rear fender lip off

 

because there is "less" chance of it rubbing...but trust me, it still will rub

the rear guys can run the spacers with these low offset wheels (of any kind) is because they run no tire on them.....it all works together

 

I don't understand what you are saying, a 9.5+12 wheel isn't very aggressive at all, and a 275 will clear it easily. People are running 10.5+18's with 275's and clearing stock fenders, and that is much more aggressive than a 9.5+12

 

I don't think it will. I was referring to implayaz9 he wants to run 18x9.5 +20 not +12. Let me see if I can find a close up pic of my rears.

 

Here are a friend's GTS's on my car. They are 19x10.5 +18 with a 285/35/19, a 10.5 +18 extends 15mm further than a 9.5 +20. I believe it will clear easily given 15mm and a smaller tire.

 

Pics courtesy of first350. He's running 275/35/18 with 18x9.5 +20 rears and fenders aren't cut/rolled. Looks like it clears easily to me.

 

well, I HAD it on my car, with a 275/35 RT615, and it rubbed badly, but for the very rolled fenders I have, no matter how much camber we tried

The 9.5 +20 with a 275/40 S03 also rubbed horribly on the rear of my car...no matter how much camber we tried.

I don't make this stuff up guys...I try it first hand, versus guessing..it's alot easier that way Everyone here seems to want a "one answer fits all approach" and when it comes to wheel/tire combos, with varying alignments, varying tire dimensions, such is not the case.

Again, all the pictures in the world do 0 good in a case like this. I am telling you my EXACT combo, and what I had to do to not make it rub (roll my rear fenders till there was no inner lip left) - believe it, don't believe, try it yourself, it's up to you. I have no need to make it up. The blue car obviously has the fenders rolled, or it's a photo shop, or it spends its time not driving, because it would plainly rub given that picture. The black car, you make no mention of the EXACT tire being run and that makes a HUGE difference. I've said it a million times - tires are like shirts. Not every 275/35 is the same size...they can vary, and vary greatly. There are "small 275's and "big" 275's.

 

Exactly - the tire BRAND make as much difference as the tire SIZE sometimes (not only width, but sidewall height/bulge). Alot of people dont realize this, but when you are working with small clearances that little detail can make or break a fitment.

BTW, thanks Adam for getting me those Cusco A-arms (although shipping from NY takes forever - and I missed delivery ). Hopefully that cures my rubbing problem up front!

 

you're very welcome

 

Yes my fenders are rolled. (the blue car) I know every tire is different but to go and just say "it won't fit" is incorrect. I believe first350 is running BF Godrich KDW tires 275/35 not 275/40.

 

No, it's not incorrect at all in this case

There is no 275 series tire you are going to run on a 9.5 +12 wheel that is not going to rub the fender lip. No amount of camber is going to fix it...only rolling the fenders will.

If you read the original question, he wants to NOT roll his fenders...so all these examples being bantered about having nothing at all to do with what the person asking the question wants - your car included (as nice as it looks)

 

But he wants to run 18x9.5 +20.

 

exactly...and I also had the 18x9.5 +20 CR Kai on the rear of my car, lowered on both springs and coilovers, and....guess what...it rubbed, with 275/40/18 S03. That's not the only tire I tried with it either, and, it still rubbed

I have no reason to make stuff up...I posted what I have experienced, on my own car, with these wheels in a variety of specs and sizes.

 

The black Z is running 9.5+12's, the blue Z is running 10.5+18's, that means an extra 7mm of clearance for the 9.5's, even though the offset is lower. RT-615's and KDW2's are probably the only 2 street tires that will rub on this setup. I run a 9.5+30 wheel with a 285/35/19, and with a 20mm spacer I still clear. Currently running a 25mm spacer with a roll, and I could easily push it to a 30mm spacer for a 9.5+0, and my camber is only at -1.6. You made it seem like any 9.5+12 setup with a 275 will "rub like crazy" when that just isn't the case, the majority of 275 tires will clear, you just happen to be using one of the wider 275's. that was my only point

 

nevermind...I'm done

Your fenders are rolled is exactly my point - the OP does not want to do this. I've done these wheels with a variety of tires...if you think it won't rub, that's fine. I know better because I've spent the time, and money, to try it

 

That's why I said a 275/35/18.

Redlude, the black Z is running 18x9.5 +20 so it's another 15mm or clearance when compared to a 19x10.5 +18

 

And I've tried 9.5+10 with a 285, it it cleared, so what about that case? In fact, I was expecting to need a roll with that offset, but I never rubbed so I had to lower the offset further. Granted this was on a g35, but the clearances should be the same.

 

again, another example which has no bearing here. A Z and G have completely different front and rear fender dimensions, a G being more forgiving

edited ^

 

I'll step out of this then, I always thought the case was the other way around, with the z's having more clearance. The lowest offset wheels are run by 350z's not G35's.

 

The G has a wider track than a Z, front and rear

small, but when you are talking mm's making the difference between rubbing and not, it can be significant