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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by deviljon
you guys are retarded, the camber isn't gonna eat his tires away if his toe is within specs. and so what if he has stretched tires, it looks good and is totally driveable. i mean, who the **** needs 295's for daily driving? not everyone drives on the streets like it's a fcukin drag strip. and people that have curb rashes on their wheels just don't know how to park/drive. it doesn't matter if the tires are stretched or not. stop hating like you're fat tires are so awesome and that your car actually has the power to back it up.
So you're saying because some of us don't like it we're automatically a) retarded, b) run 295s, and c) think we make mad power? Here's a reality check for you... looks are subjective. If I say I don't like how it looks, that's it. That's my opinion, not yours, so just deal with it. My car is till on the stockers (wuill run 275s in the rear soon), and I have no power adders so I know my car is at stock performance. I can accept if he, or you, or anyone else likes it, but I don't, and I think it does in fact look quite silly.

And please explain how having toe adjusted can correct for large amounts of negative camber.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 06:02 AM
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Nice wheels, but I think it looks ghetto. Just my opinion.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 06:13 AM
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If this is innovative (i.e. " what most of the Japanese tuners are doing") then this is truly a sad day. Personally I would never run a setup like this but to each his own. If you like to have your tires wearing unevenly and rubbing the fenders, more power to you and your innovation.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 06:14 AM
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that car will blend in in houston...so many lowriders...
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 06:38 AM
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I like the FORM of the agressive offset, how FUNCTIONAL is it? Does the car track straight or does it doggy walk over bumps and such?
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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I like it. Tires might be a bit too stretched but I think it looks good still. Good job. Dont listen to people on here, there is alot of chit talking that goes on.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Z Phil
So you're saying because some of us don't like it we're automatically a) retarded, b) run 295s, and c) think we make mad power? Here's a reality check for you... looks are subjective. If I say I don't like how it looks, that's it. That's my opinion, not yours, so just deal with it. My car is till on the stockers (wuill run 275s in the rear soon), and I have no power adders so I know my car is at stock performance. I can accept if he, or you, or anyone else likes it, but I don't, and I think it does in fact look quite silly.

And please explain how having toe adjusted can correct for large amounts of negative camber.
i never said the people that don't like it are retarded. only the people who think that his camber will eat through his tires within a few hundred miles. with neg. camber and correct toe the wheels will still be going straight. even though tire wear will be uneven, it wont be a big enough difference because there is no opposing forces. also, the tires can eventually be flipped (from left to right).

i know several people (including myself) that run camber (~3 degrees) and stretched tires. I personally have been on this setup for 10k+ miles and about 8 months and the last time i checked my tread i still had ~80 percent. my toe is almost perfect so i have nothing to worry about.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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^^^ Ive given up trying to explain these things to people. Too many people have it stuck in their heads that it is wrong/dumb/retarded/unsafe/whatever, and its not worth it trying to exlpain anymore...
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by deviljon
i never said the people that don't like it are retarded. only the people who think that his camber will eat through his tires within a few hundred miles. with neg. camber and correct toe the wheels will still be going straight. even though tire wear will be uneven, it wont be a big enough difference because there is no opposing forces. also, the tires can eventually be flipped (from left to right).
How can you flip tires from left to right if they're unidirectional, which is pretty much all performance tires?
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Z Phil
How can you flip tires from left to right if they're unidirectional, which is pretty much all performance tires?
when i say "flip" i mean take the tire from the left wheel and shift it to the right one and vice versa.

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^^^ Ive given up trying to explain these things to people. Too many people have it stuck in their heads that it is wrong/dumb/retarded/unsafe/whatever, and its not worth it trying to exlpain anymore...
i feel ya
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by deviljon
when i say "flip" i mean take the tire from the left wheel and shift it to the right one and vice versa.



i feel ya

Get Em' Deviljon....

Car is sick... I'm loving it.... not sure about two diff' set of wheels Fr/Rr..
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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I commend you on pushing the limits of wheel fitments with the Z but for me, thats a little too much. It just doesn't look right especially with that aero.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Pretty cool, but looks like the lip of the wheel might come in contact with your fender.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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Function > Form

That looks retarded, and 235 on a 10" wheel dont even get me started. Just because people have done dumber things than that doesnt mean its ok...
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by OffsetZ33
^^^ Ive given up trying to explain these things to people. Too many people have it stuck in their heads that it is wrong/dumb/retarded/unsafe/whatever, and its not worth it trying to exlpain anymore...
same here, they just dont get it...people like to go by the book, we dont!
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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holy sweet jeebus! dang.
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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The sad part is definitely the fact that you can't get a bigger lip than that even if it's -25 Like I said earlier...holy **** for a crazy setup.

Do I like it? Yes
Would I get it? No
Is that 235 tire on the 19x10 good? No

So in a sense I think it's nice that you tried something new and stands out but I don't think it's very good for daily driving
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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by AlvinHuyN
The sad part is definitely the fact that you can't get a bigger lip than that even if it's -25 Like I said earlier...holy **** for a crazy setup.

Do I like it? Yes
Would I get it? No
Is that 235 tire on the 19x10 good? No

So in a sense I think it's nice that you tried something new and stands out but I don't think it's very good for daily driving
it's totally okay for daily driving. yes, if you hit a curb you're more likely to damage your wheels. but you shouldn't be hitting curbs in the first place




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Old Nov 6, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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haha jon. like offsetZ said above. leave this alone. its only for the few that understand. we dont need to explain anything.
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